Well since I'll be the first kitten
Here's the place to discuss this week's Buffy after you've seen it. Keep all your comments in this thread for the first day.
Hello Warduke, this is your stalker reporting for duty. How many hours from now may we expect your report? Oh, and if you give it, please be sure to mention who says the "honey...6000 times etc..." line.
Editing to add: Nevermind, I just read the spoiler, I know the answer.
It is the one I wanted.
[This message has been edited by Dr.G (edited February 12, 2001).]
Dr.G, nice to hear from my stalker
I see the new ep in an hour WOO HOO so I’ll be posting about it
in about two hours.
Well I just saw Crush, it was a good ep, not much W/T
First scene is them dancing, not slow dancing but dancing slowly, not
the same as the dance in Family but still sweet, they were holding hands
and it was Tara who said “honey” which is great since I've
wanted them to call each other little pet names for awhile now.
Second scene is W/T with Buffy and W/T are talking about The Hunchback of Notre Dame and then Tara is looking for some change for the vending machine and Willow gives her some change AND a very cute smile and of course Tara smiles right back, damn, they even make something like giving someone change a sweet moment that makes you go…awwww
The best line of the ep, Harmony after seeing Dru, tells Spike…You
better not be thinking what I think you’re thinking, cause my answer is
the same as always, no threesomes unless it’s boy, boy, girl, or Charlize
Theron…
Since the people who post the wildfeed reviews describe the whole ep,
that’s why I just write about W/T, the best part of any ep
Thank you Warduke! I can go to sleep now finally hehehe. You're right, W/T are the best part of any ep, and these scenes sound like they are worthy of some serious replaying over and over again. Can't wait for the sound files and the pics from these scenes.
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"Hello! Tarasexual now..."
Thanks a bunch Warduke! Thank you
ooooh this sounds sooo cute!
they are acting like a couple in public, finally! I can't wait to see this!
by the way if you splice all the willow tara scenes together from hush
on it makes a very nice little taped story
Now that I’ve seen the ep again, well ok, just the W/T scenes
I mention this because I know my fellow kittens would have certainly
caught it tomorrow night…Warduke, how could you miss the arm rubbing
Xita, I think little names like that are really cute too, I was very
happy to finally hear one of them use one, hopefully there’s more
to come (sweetheart, sweetie, baby…they’re all good )
aww the W/T scenes sound so cute!
~one thing that bothers me...this is the Valentines eppy, Willow and Tara should kiss in this episode I don't care what any censors say....everybody kisses on V-Day...I'm sorry I would not just rub my b/f's arm on V-Day or ANYDAY!!!!!!....come on people lets be a little more realistic (sp?)
but other than that, ya the W/T parts seem great
buh bye
scoobie*
ooh, arm rub. you know warduke about the change thing. I bet w/t could make paint drying look cute.
For you spoiler ho's out there, the script for Crush has been posted at http://www.jamesmarsters.com./
From Ain't It Cool News
BUFFY 5.14 FAQ
WHAT’S IT CALLED?
“Crush.”
WHO’S RESPONSIBLE?
Teleplay is credited to David Fury, who also
authored “Real Me,” the series’ first Dawn-centric installment.
WHAT DOES TV GUIDE SAY?
“After being scolded by her big sister for
having a crush on Spike (James Marsters), Dawn sheds light on the identity
of the true object of the neutered vamp's affection---Buffy. With his
frustrating Slayer fixation finally out of the closet, Spike swallows his
pride and professes his love to her face, only to be rebuffed by the
supremely creeped-out Buffster. Angry and humiliated, a sulky Spike
returns home to find Drusilla (Juliet Landau) waiting...and she's ready to
take him back.”
SUCKOMETRIC READINGS?
This “Buffy” must rank as one of the finest
ever produced! It’s got everything: huge laughs, nonstop plot twists,
major character development, suspense, the best use of Spike since he and
Dru fled Sunnydale together almost three years ago, and the best use of
Dru since she and Spike fled Sunnydale almost three years ago (even if one
considers her recent jaw-dropping stint on “Angel”)!!
IS “CRUSH” AS GOOD AS “FOOL FOR LOVE,” LAST NOVEMBER’S SPIKE-FEST WITH
ALL THE FLASHBACKS?
Better!
THE BIG NEWS?
If you’re like me, you will find yourself, against all
expectations, rooting for Spike to win the slayer’s heart!
WHA?? SPIKE AND BUFFY COULD ACTUALLY COUPLE??
The Spike that
inhabits this episode makes it seems almost LIKELY. And consider this
piece of dialogue, spoken just outside the Spikecrypt:
BUFFY: You cannot have a crush on something that is dead and evil and a vampire!
DAWN: Right. That’s why you were never with Angel for three years.
BUFFY: Angel’s different. He has a soul.
DAWN: Spike has a chip. Same diff.
IS DRU STILL IN THE COMPANY OF DARLA?
She is not!
DOES DRU SURVIVE THIS EPISODE?
This is the major source of tonight’s
suspense, keeping us guessing until the show’s final minutes! It’s
particularly nerve-wracking because Dru quickly reminds us why she’s one
of the most compelling and entertaining characters in the Buffyverse. Is
Team Whedon REALLY perverse enough to dust her just as she’s returned to
major-fun mode??
WHAT’S SO GREAT ABOUT SPIKE TONIGHT?
For the first time in a long
time, he’s virtually back to his old pre-Initiative self: charismatic,
quick-witted, directed, independent, and brimming with disdainful asides.
To see him like this is to be reminded again that – as good as “Angel” has
gotten – they probably gave the wrong vampire his own show.
BUT SPIKE IS STILL EVIL, RIGHT?
That’s the OTHER great thing about
the new William! The combination of his brainchip and his emerging love
for Buffy really seems to have transformed him! Not only is he as amusing
as the season-two Spike, he finally seems to be moving in the direction of
good and right. Like Bill Murray in “Groundhog Day,” he’s been dealing
with adversity so long he’s finally seeing the virtue in being virtuous!
Even if Buffy and Spike don’t find coupledom together, we can only hope
James Marsters has lots of years left on his Mutant Enemy contract.
WHAT’S SO FUNNY ABOUT PEACE, LOVE AND BUFFY 5.14?
Spike’s sex-games
with Harmony (there’s a great Harm line about one of South Africa’s
leading film actresses)! And Xander’s new Bronze alter-ego! And Buffy’s
reaction to Spike offering her Bourbon! And the lamest, jiffy-popping
vampire lair in Sunnydale! And more! This hour: guffaw-packed!
HOW IS DAWN ADAPTING TO HER NEW SELF-KNOWLEDGE?
Very well, thanks in
large part to Spike! It’s really his ongoing relationship with Buffy’s
sister that lets us see the good in him.
ANY SIGN OF BEN/GLORIFICUS, OR THE KNIGHTS WHO SAY “KEY!!”?
Only
Ben, who shows up ever-so-briefly -- just long enough to chat up Buffy and
generate a little jealousy.
IS XANDER MADE A JUNIOR WATCHER?
No!
HOW DO YOU SEE MAY’s SEASON-CLOSING 100TH EPISODE?
It will be
(pardon the pun) glorious!!! Gimme a colossal, apocalyptic two-hour Crisis
on Infinite Buffyverses crossover uniting Buffy, Spike, Giles, Willow,
Tara, Anya and Xander with Angel, Cordy, Faith, Riley, Oz, Wesley, and the
ghost of Kendra!! I might even tape it!
TELL US HOW TO SQUANDER OUR TUESDAYS, O HERCULES!
The WB’s “Buffy”
at 8:00, the WB’s “Angel” at 9:00, and MTV’s “Road Rules/Real World
Challenge” at 10:00. Tape ABC’s “The Mole” at 8:00 and Fox’s “Dark Angel”
at 9:00. Buy a TiVo and record Fox Family’s 2-hour “Freaks & Geeks”
block at 8:00.
HERC’S RATING FOR “BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER” 5.14?
****
The Hercules T. Strong Rating System:
**** better than most motion
pictures
*** actually worth your valuable time
** as horrible as most stuff on TV
* makes you quietly pray for bulletins
I warn you not to defy me!
I am – Hercules!
I like the idea of a two hour buffy 100th eppie big finish angel cross over! that would mean a 9pm second hour and thus the later hour provides for a possible willow tara kiss!
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Was that a "honey" thrown in there? Oh, happy day!
Ahh, pretty good ep, and it was really great to actually hear Tara get to say more than one small line at a time. Every ep, she gets more confident. Can't wait to see more.
And, despite the fact that she is unceasingly annoying, it was good to see Harmony in the episode. I was beginning to wonder what had happened to her!
Still, the season seems to be moving along a little slow - from drawing out the Buffy/Riley thing to doing the same thing to Buffy/Spike. Did anyone else see the preview to next week's show? More of the same. *sigh* Oh, well. This has been a fabulous show from the beginning, so there should be a decent payoff if I can just hold on...
quote:
Originally posted by Warduke:
The best line of the ep, Harmony after seeing Dru, tells Spike…You better not be thinking what I think you’re thinking, cause my answer is the same as always, no threesomes unless it’s boy, boy, girl, or Charlize Theron…
Harm has good taste in women. Charlize, that woman is beautiful and has
legs, legs and more legs along with a fantabulous body to go with those
miles of legs.
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Amber FanGirl #1a
May the
Amber Force be with you.
ohhh, i loved this ep, despite the minimal w/t. i loved the "honey" line...they are just too cute. and the spike/dawn scenes were excellent. spike is just hot, there's no doubt about it...
okay, i should comment later, when i'm not completely drunk out of my mind...
Well, there wasn't much W/T action. I will say one thing though: they cannot dance, and
is Anya not a little firecracker on the dance floor?
Amber looked hot as always Love the hair
Now, okay, Spike . . . I'm sorry, but this
Buffy thing just makes
him look pathetic. It's pretty evident that he only cares about
getting
reciprocation for his affections in terms with how much attention Buffy is
willing to pay to him, as seen with his threatening to set Dru loose if
Buffy doesn't
tell him what he wants to hear. Thus is consistent with
the "I'm willing to inflict violence (the gun in FFL) if I don't recieve
the affection I want."
And I'm sorry, but after tonight I really want Spike and Dru back
together. They have passion, chemistry, history, and there's that other
little thing . . . oh yeah, they actually both *like* each other. This
episode made it painfully evident to me that Spike's obssession with Buffy
is borne more out of
frustration about his inability to be evil than
any true affection for her.
Plus I have dreadfully misssed my vampire ladies
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Darla returns to Angel next week! I hope this
isn't the end of her,
but I have so missed my lovely evil seductive villains
I guess it really doesn't say much for me that I like the viallins on
these shows much more than the 'heroes' sometimes and I don't want to see
them reformed. But who cares? I love my evil girls! The nasty side of me I
suppose
'Course the two loverwiccas are no slouches themselves
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"I tried to be unlovable/why couldn't you do the
same?"
-(jewel)
"Spank us 'til Tuesday! We promise to be bad if you do!"
-(drusilla,
angel)
the dance scene with them holding hands and looking all happy was sooooo cute !!!
especially when you play it slow mo
they hold hands coming off the dance floor and buffy picks up on Tara's concerned little arm stroke of willow.
poor willow with lingering headaches.
Tara calling willow 'Honey' and the two of them sitting with no daylight between them !!! who hoo looking like a couple finally!!
and such a nice gesture with willow handing tara the money for the
vending machine
loved the girls hair tonight
but please someone
tell the xan man to buy some shampoo and spring for a cut!
when Tara said "honey" to Willow... i yelled out: "did she actually say HONEY?" whoo hoo!
oh, but their *moment* was cute! Tara looking for change and Willow
giving her coins and an exchange of *smiles!* and this was done without
them saying anything! it was a silent yet meaningful moment, Willow knew
Tara needed something and gave it w/o hesitation! and Tara saying "thank
you my love" through a great big "smile!" oh God, i just love 'em! and
Buffy saying: "was he one of the singing gargoyles?" referring to Tara's
asking her if it was Charles Laughton in the movie "The Hunchback of Notre
Dame." LOL!
loved Tara's 'do! disliked Willow's scarf (while talking to Buffy at her house) and then her wardrobe during the vending machine scene. (sorry)
i was searching for W/T the first scene and cried out "yay! there they are dancing!" they were both holding hands and getting jiggy with it. cute! and yes Anyalvr, they don't know how to dance. pity!
loved Buffy's expression when she finally found out Spike's in love with her! i sorta gawked at the tv with her! heh.heh. but was too sad for Spike when she didn't want him anywhere near her or her family and friends! the pain he must be feeling! and the door slamming in his face! ugh!
yes Warduke, i saw that 2-second "rub" Tara gave Willow's elbow, and she was even lookin' so gentle and loving again at her and she didn't glance at anyone even while everyone was talking, her eyes were concentrated on Willow alone! i think she was worried coz Willow had a headache and had to take Advil (or aspirin or Tylenol.) and Tara has warned Willow 6,000 times not to take teleportation spells...
Tara: Honey, in case you didn't hear me the first 6,000 times, no more teleportation spells.
so Tara's been naggin' her all the time and Willow's not listening! talk abt an old married couple! heh.heh.
how come when Spike bit into the girl's neck, he didn't feel a thud. isn't it he still has the "chips ahoy" in his head which would have caused a painful reaction? hmmmm, or probably he was just pretending for Dru's sake so she'll think he'll go with her again to do the nasties... ok, i answered my own Q.. duh?! heh.heh.
it wasn't that bad an ep! tho' would have been better with more W/T
scenes. TTFN, peace!
The girl was dead, dru snapped her neck so spike could feed without pain since she was dead. Remember in the troll eppie he could have had the blood of the victims but didn't feed to please buffy
and yah what was up with the awful scarf on willow? does she ever wear
scarfs?
last time a scarf was worn wasn't it by buffy because she got
bit by dracula?
is willow hiding a vamp bite ? or a tara love bite perhaps ?
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I didn't see any indication that Spike felt pain. I think the point of that whole shenanigan was to prove that with a little mind-warp the chip ceases to matter.
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"I tried to be unlovable/why couldn't you do the
same?"
-(jewel)
"Spank us 'til Tuesday! We promise to be bad if you do!"
-(drusilla,
angel)
the mysterious killer (of the train massacre) wasn't found, right? coz the vampires didn't do it and not Glory coz she sucks brains...so... hmmm... did anyone see that shadow flash across the screen, right before the train conductor got killed? it seems like an alien (like the grey ones in X-files) but smaller... like a big lollipop but dark and sorta gloomy lookin...? it was kinda eerie if i may so myself... pax
eekiboo -- I thought the train killer was Dru -- her gourmet dining cart experience while riding into Sunnydale from LA. Wasn't there a shot of one of Dru's doll with blood on it?
ah ah!! just saw it! ok first impressions...
*finger pointing at spike*
HAH! and another HAH! and a HAHAH!
i really liked this ep, lots of squealage moments for me. when buffy socked spike, when dru first showed up, when her doll was shown, when harmony arrowed spike, and most importantly..HONEY! why did they have to dance so..so...oh i dont know a nice way to say it. floppy? anya was sure swingin that hair around. go girl.
oh that was so terribly cute. who else thought tara looked good enough to eat in that scene? oh wait...she looks good enough to eat almost always. mmmHMM!
i was really hoping spike would return to dru. i miss big bad...its cute to see him get all flustered and all but in all honesty, when he and dru were scoping out the kissing couple above...he had that evil look on his face...and i was like ooh yeah...thats the spike im talkin about.
alas. but its all good, we get more buffy dissing spike. and thats always fun.
loved the preview. tight little body... LOL oh GAWD spike.
oh, and i was very impressed with anyas observation of xanders comment toward spike being potentially hurtful. how HUMAN of you anya! bravo!
perversely excited for grosse point.
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I really enjoyed to-night's episodes. It's too bad that, given it was the Buffy Valentine's episode, we didn't see more of Willow and Tara. However the scenes they were in were delightful. They looked so happy on the dance floor and I loved it when Tara called Willow honey.
Poor Spike, talk about being unlucky in love. Getting dumped by three girls on Valentines day has to be some kind of record.
Spike and Dru are good together. There is a passion, a chemistry there that Spike's relationship with Buffy could never match. Dru brings out the best (or is that the worst) in him. To-night we saw Spike the way he should be. To quote from the Ain't It Cool News review he was "charismatic, quick-witted, directed, independent, and brimming with disdainful asides".
The one part of the evening that made me angry was the WB promo for Grosse Pointe. To see this promo acclaiming the SMG kiss on that show as the "hottest kiss on television" right after watching the Buffy Valentine's episode where Willow and Tara weren't allowed to kiss was infuriating. That honor belongs solely to our two wiccans.
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They didn't really focus on any other pairings in this episode besides the Spike/Buffy/Harmony/Dru thing(not all together at the same time, you know what Harm said...only with Charlize! LOL!) which was kind of disappointing for a Valentine's Day ep.
I mean, i Live for Tara/Willow moments and Xander/Anya moments are always funny and oddly endearing, i wish they had put some more fous on the other scoobs.
A few random thoughts...
--Willow and Tara, adorable as always. I've got a bad feeling that Tara
won't let her Honey be the one to take the spell backlash next
time...
--Okay, Dawn continues to be a typical teenager, with a crush
on the O-Soooo-Wrong-Guy. Snerk. Anybody else notice she's actually quite
inciteful?
--Drusilla killed the people on the train. She also killed
Spike's victim at the Bronze.
--Spike is changing into something, and
some one, new. Right now he's still the charmingly evil s.o.b. we've known
before, but there's more to it than that. He's lost virtually
everything that's ever defined him. Killing. Dru. His isolation
from the prey. Now he's growing new parts to his personality, feeling
emotions and trying to figure out what to do about it. Of course he's real
awkward (wow is that an understatement) but methinks that's pretty
much to be expected. This is proving an interesting journey.
--I can
sympathise with Xander. He has no romantic interest in Dawn at all (he's
not a perv, fer god's sake) but her crush was a nice little ego-boost
that's gone bye bye. Oh well.
--Wow. Anya can dance!
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"O let my name be in the Book of Love.
If it
be there, I care not of
That other book Above...
Strike it out! Or
write it in anew.
But let it be in the Book of Love!"
--Omar Kyam
This was a good w/t ep. I was watching late season 3 eps and it bothered me how w/o touched and sat closer than w/t usually did. However, I saw that same kind of thing with wt/ tonight. I saw casual touching, rubbing and sitting closely together. Very nice. Notice the look right before the arm rub
The rest of the ep. Not sure. I just thought it was cute Spike was
dressing differently now. LOL. And the not so subtle metaphor of the
hunchback. If they have no intention of going through with this, they need
to drop it. Harmony was funny and Drusilla not on long enough.
And Dru
was the killer at the train.
The look here on Amber's face is precious:
The arm touch would be this one:
Amber did another bendover while at the candy machine and Buffy/Sarah
took a sneak peek:
And the rest of the vidcaps for this ep are here although they're a bit on the dark side due to the usual crappy WB feed I get.
-- Nick
Thanks nick! That's the look! Tara is so in love sigh. Ok, now who can blame Buffy for taking a peek. But she better watch out for bad mojo Willow.
Thanks for the pics Dead Dog!
And can anyone tell what Buffy is staring at there?
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Ah Nick, you capped the good ones!!! Tee hee... Buffy takes a look...hehe And can I just say, I'm glad I'm not the only one who has 'too dark' issues from caps. I'm always thinking it's my set up, maybe I should be blaming the WB feed more!
editted to add something else: okay, and once again Willow's in pants and Tara's in skirts! Um, I see a pattern here.
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Oh hehehe, this is funny, the three of us posted at ones with the same thought there. Buffy, Buffy... hehehe
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Originally posted by judy:
eekiboo -- I thought the train killer was Dru -- her gourmet dining cart experience while riding into Sunnydale from LA. Wasn't there a shot of one of Dru's doll with blood on it?
thank u Judy, i was on the 'net, checking e-mails while watching it and at the same time looking for W/T moments so my mind was in an excited mode...heh.heh. i should have given it my undivided attention. (bad eek! slaps wrists 3 1/2 times...heh.heh.) forgot abt the doll... so it was Dru! yeah! also, Xander is getting way more confident here. he gets rid of Spike, gives a big tip and confronts him re: the money! go Xander! tho' he was kind of a meany towards Spike.
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Originally posted by tvsurfer:
and yah what was up with the awful scarf on willow? does she ever wear scarfs?
last time a scarf was worn wasn't it by buffy because she got bit by dracula?is willow hiding a vamp bite ? or a tara love bite perhaps ?
yeah, i could not understand why Willow had to wear that huge scarf! it
wasn't that cold now was it? atleast the scarf Buffy wore was better than
this. oh well, it's probably Tara's fault giving her lotsa kissy marks!
and Willow's too embarrassed to show it to her bestfriend... heh.heh. pax
that big ole scarf does make one
wonder
did anyone notice all the poodles on willows sweater? guess she is a dog person. where is kitty fantastico these days?
Speaking of Willow's attire, did anyone notice the blue ribbon she was wearing? It was near her right shoulder, under the big pink scarf. The blue ribbon is a statement against censorship, isn't it? Think it was a deliberate message?
I didn't know about blue ribbons
thats cool if it is
which reminds me did anyone see the wb promo for SMG on grosse point and how they are billing this the kiss of the century ??
scussse me but how can they be out promoting a kiss on one network show
and banning it on another?
http://www.deaddogparty.com/alyson/crush/crush04.jpg
OK check where the hands are and the facial expressions in this one
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quote:
Originally posted by xita:
Ok, now who can blame Buffy for taking a peek.
Who could blame anyone for taking a peek. Although if Willow thought
anyone was making a move on Tara I can see her getting extremely upset.
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tvsurfer :
heh
heh heh... heheheheh...
The blue ribbon worn by Willow
Not knowing what it was about bugged me so I did a net search.
It's from Free Speech Online, apparently a campaign of the Electronic
Frontier Foundation.
http://www.eff.org/blueribbon.html
-- Nick
spuckie
dead dog, thanks for going into research mode! so our hacker willow
is sporting the internet free speach ribbon that makes sense!
You know...(cue evil idea music)
Based on Harmony's comment, I've gotta say she's got good taste when it comes to women. (My brother pointed out Charlize Theron's legs begin at her neck!) Think maybe by next season she could be fed up with men (let's face it, among vampires Spike has been her best option so far). The little ditz might decide Willow has the right idea--not only about girls but in terms of one girl in particular! You can't tell me that wouldn't make a wonderfully wacky/scary episode!
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"O let my name be in the Book of Love.
If it
be there, I care not of
That other book Above...
Strike it out! Or
write it in anew.
But let it be in the Book of Love!"
--Omar Kyam
tvsurfer, you are so funny. Yes there are more than posterior people here. I am an all around person myself. I love that picture. It looks like tara has a taste for the finer things in life.
GOOD EYE TARA!!
Speaking of good eye, my gf noticed Willow's hair had magically curled
by the time she was with Buffy. I didn't notice It looked
nice though. I really don't mind her curly hair. Speaking of clothes, what
was that shirt Tara was wearing in her second scene?
Tvsurfer hehehe, that's funny.
And no Xita, I will *not* do big red fonts here, I have hurt enough innocent kittens as it is, but you are tempting me I tell ya.
You really should pay more attention though. You missed the shrimp thing, and now Willowhair? Tssk... I *never* miss a thing!
I certainly did *not* fail to notice the instant chemistry between Willow and Tara in Hush, nooooooo, not me....
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>>Speaking of clothes, what was that shirt Tara was wearing in her second scene?<<
I believe that would be a rooster, or cock (pic here). I noticed that the second time I watched the episode, immediately reminding me of the Tara pants/Willow dress comment in this thread.
Well, it kinda looks like a rooster but upon third review I'm not so sure. Had me going, tho.
--- Nick
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i'm so glad i wasn't the only one to notice the atrocity that was that pinkish purple shirt! i saw it and exclaimed "dear god, what is tara *wearing*?! it's so...purple and....leopard printed and...hideous!"
but you know what? tara looks adorable in it anyway! she's so cute in that scene... sigh...
as far as i can see, it looks like a fantastic animal, those you find in medieval books, like bestiarys. in portuguese this animal is called "quimera", half hawk, half lion. i think in english it is named a gryphon (it can be spelled as griffon or griffin, i think), but i am not sure.
griffon's have a lions body and the head and wings of an eagle. the beast on tara's shirt doesn't quite have an eagleish looking head, I think it looks more like a winged dragon
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ROTFLMAO - ok ok I corrected the spelling and wiccie - you are
wicked
but
Aaahhh, tvsurfer, do I detect a Fruedian slip?*G*
"the *breast* on Tara's shirt"?
I see your true motivation;~)
I don't care what the design is - I'll look at Amber/Tara's chest even if there was nothing on it!
Who's with me?
I'm sorry I missed this question when it was first posted because:
I worked for the Philadelphia Museum of Art for about 3 1/2 years. The museum's symbol, which adorns the exterior of the building, as well as all of our signage and stationery and such, which we had tons of supplementary information on to give to folks, is the Gryphon. (Griffin, Griffon).
Additionally:
One of my local Buffy buddies that I watch the show with every week is a heraldic scholar, who handles much of the registration of heraldry for the SCA around here.
I can say with a great deal of certainty that the thing on Tara's shirt (which I actually liked, go figure) is a Gryphon.
-len
Len, I liked the Gryphon. What I didn't like were the colors and the way it hung on her.