Desperate Housewives

[BFR from Paris]

Poor Susan



The whole gay thing actually seemed a little weird to me, but I can't wait for Bree's reaction when she finds out her son likes boys



Ooooh the guy who plays the young cop was Donnie Pfaster on the X-Files... one of the most creepy serial killers of all time!



One complaint: that's 2 weeks in a row we haven't seen Edie! I want Nicollette!!!!!!

[Gatito Grande]

Woo hoo, new ep!



Is it just me, or could anyone else seriously get into some Susan/Edie subtext? I swear, as Edie was talking about seeking solace by getting drunk and "making out w/ some guy in a back alley", I was thinking "Yo, yo: Edie, why don't you and Susan just make out w/ each other?" (Also on the f/f front: good to see Bree and Gabrielle getting along better w/ each other. Maybe they both will turn into decent human beings . . . as well as hotties? )



The plot thickens re Mary-Alice/Angela (that was another fun scene: Susan and Edie playing sleuths . . . and Susan getting in trouble at it, as usual!)



Great to have this show back in new eps again! (and oooweee, promos for next week: !Ay caramba! )



GG What someone else said earlier: it's awfully hard, sometimes, to like Lynette as a character (pressing the school nurse for the kid who was "Patient Zero" was really inexcusable, no matter what reps her sons had gotten). Out



Would have been classier, if Bree had just said "Enjoy the muffins" to Maisy, and left. Considering Carlos had just been in trouble w/ the law, I really can't believe Gabrielle took a chance on stealing that porta-potty!

[urnofosiris]

Finally a new episode, it felt like forever. To me, Susan and Edie have the only real chemistry I have seen on this show as far as couples are concerned. I enjoy their scenes, I hope they don´t won´t stop snapping at each other.



I especially enjoyed Mrs Huber´s scary sister making Paul sweat. He got rid of one ´problem´ and he got a way bigger one in return. Seems like poetic justice. I am sure she knows he killed her sister and knows a great deal about the skeletons in his closet. She won´t turn her back on him, but I doubt she will turn him in to the police. She probably is hatching her own nasty scheme.



I still am miffed that Bree has taken her asshole husband back, but she seems to have him well under control. I have to wonder if they can seriously ever have a shot a genuine happy reunion given all that has happened. She should move the hell on.



Edit: this episode had a lot of lol moments for me. The one weakness was what happened with Mrs Solice. I was paying more attention to the impossibilty of Mrs Solice waking up like that, being hooked up to only an IV, remembering exactly what happened and being able to walk after 5 months of immobility to appreciate the wicked humor in her demise. I would have preferred the realistic route of her waking up and recovering slowly, not remembering what happened and Gaby being scared shitless that one day she would remember.

Edited by: DrG at: 4/4/05 2:15 pm

[Hemiola]

Just thought I'd mention how great it was to see Marlee Matlin again on TV! Her plotline was amusing, and just goes to show that you can never tell about relationships.



'Bout time Bree's nasty little boy got carted off to boot camp--that's one seriously obnoxious kid.



And I've got to say--I'm starting to feel sorry for Carlos. Longoria's character is turning out to be a real "piece of work".

[urnofosiris]

All the husbands were sympathetic in this episode. Gabrielle is a beautiful woman, but is that really enough for Carlos? I am not so sure I feel really sorry for him. He must know that Gabrielle is selling him out literally. She made that clear enough, just do the time so I can keep the house. I wonder if either of them really ever loved the other. Andrew is really nasty and stupid too. Acting the pissed off angry young man is one thing, kicking your mother and spitting her in the face is quite another. If not for him, Mrs Solice would not be dead now. Is he ever going to develop a conscience? Or will that fact just be glossed over and forgotten.



edit: Oh I was oddly amused at Andrew watching Lost on the tellie. I am so easy to please sometimes.

Edited by: DrG at: 4/4/05 4:36 pm

[Gatito Grande]

Although it was hinted earlier that Tom Scavo has some sort of skeleton(s) in his closet, I really do hope that he and Lynnette will work it out: they actually have a pretty decent relationship (seem to, anyway).



Be careful what you wish for: after the hype for having a character come out of the closet, Andrew is still just about most repulsive little putz on the show (if only he were a 'phobe, you could hope he would "drop the soap" at reform camp . . . but he might like that too much! )



I swear, Gabrielle is more self-centered than that "other Gabrielle" was when under Aphrodite's Obsession Spell!*



Oh, Susan, Edie, Susan, Edie: don't you two grrls GET IT that your competition w/ boring boytoys is just a transference of The Hots you obviously have FOR EACH OTHER??? Get a clue! (and then, Get It On! )



GG So Buffy's Demon-Roomie grew up to be a demonically bad night-nurse Out



* I reference the XWP S3 ep, "Fins, Femmes and Gems" of course . . .

[BFR from Paris]

So, Zack's original name was Dana? What does this mean? (hysterical voice)



Gabrielle is so gonna get pregnant by John... But she had to sign Carlos' paper, so what's gonna happen when he gets out of jail? (anguished voice)



Susan's mom... poor Susan



Big bad Bree scaring Lynette's children... lol



And Andrew came out to his parents!



It feels good to know more about the chopped up woman in the toy chest, but there are still many questions to be answered...



No Edie this week

[urnofosiris]

Very interesting in episode, it had quite a few genuine lol moments and some more mystery added to the big pile.

I never expected Zach to be Dana, the name had me assuming Dana was a girl, but it can be a boy´s name too, I think Dana Carvey is definitely a boy after all. I am pretty sure he was someone else´s Dana though. Why else would Paul say ´take you away from the only family you´ve ever known´. Why else would there be a woman trying to take him away.

Carlos and Gabrielle are just fucked up. He turned right back into an asshole, but I can´t feel sorry for Gabrielle, she is selling herself cheaply. Of course we are going to get the who is the father drama, I am curious to see how that will play out.

Edited by: DrG at: 4/12/05 1:41 pm

[BFR from Paris]

Nobody commenting? OMG!!!! We found out who was in the toy chest! Susan's mom acting like a teenager! Gabrielle taking the power back! (but of course, she's gonna get pregnant hehe) and Bree... and Andrew



No Edie...



Mike is on to Paul Young, things are gonna get ugly...



Still loving this show!

[urnofosiris]

I did not like this last episode. Not that I hated it, it just did not do much for me. Last week Susan´s mom amused me, but now I found her over the top annoying. I liked Susan well enough in this epi, but I do not get why she did not throw those two disgusting guys out of *her* house right away and to hell with mommy. Her granddaughter was in there, it was just too icky for words that she would bring those greasy hairy asses in there.



I thought the interaction between Lynette and her old grumpy but secretly very nice neighbour was both amusing and sweet. Their mini storyline was the highlight of the episode for me. Gabrielle was too one dimensional shallow calculating and materialistic even by her pre-established standards.



I am not sure what to make of Bree´s classic freaked out ´you are a pervert sodomite going to hell but I want to save your immortal soul and I would love you even if you were a murderer´ reaction. Not sure how most people will interpret that particular storyline. Will they think ´look at how silly Bree is reacting´ or will they think ´see, she is right, that guy is evil because he is gay´ and evil he is (or something in that general direction at least), not for being gay obviously, but I wonder whether in this day and age a lot of folks will see it like that.



I may be overanalyzing it. Personally, I hope the earth opens up and swallows him soon. He already is responsible for the death of Mrs Solice, his mother saved his sorry ass and now he is trying to torment her. I am sure he was not just saying those things to torment the kindly reverent. Seriously, Damien was a far more likeable boy than this one. He is even scarier than Zack.

Edited by: DrG at: 4/20/05 2:22 pm

[Gatito Grande]

I largely agree w/ everything you say, G (now don't let that go to your head! ).



Andrew "I like vanilla fine, but sometimes I might want chocolate" may be Family in the sense of "not straight", but he's hardly a guy I even slightly want to fight for.



GG Except maybe for his right to marry his "Daddy" in prison! Out

[Warduke]

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[xita]

oh geez, god bless them both. Who has that in a close up? Isn't it about time the darn GLAAD awards were on tv?

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[urnofosiris]

Oh hello, I can´t say that I mind that. I am glad to see Marcia Cross was not so ´spooked´ by the gay rumor that she would avoid any possible future speculation by engaging in close encounters with her gorgeous fellow cast members of the female persuasion.

Finally an episode I really liked. The last few weeks had been so so. This was a good one I think, a right mix of fun, drama and intrigue. Morty is a sweet man, I´d marry him if I were 30 years older and a straight woman. He gets my thanks for taking Susan´s mommy back home. Some storylines finally moved forward and it answered and raised some interesting questions. I am especially interested in Mrs Huber´s scary sister. I wonder whether her intentions towards Zack are noble. Getting him away from psycho Paul is a good thing, but why is she risking her own life for him. Is it because she genuinely cares or is it because he is the son of a very rich grandfather. I assume the dead lady in the trunk was his real mother, the drug addicted daughter to old Scrooge, come back to claim her stolen son Dana. This makes me wonder whether there is a chance Mike is Zack´s real father.

[xita]

I liked seeing susan reuinite with Mike. He's a good guy and you can tell that. I don't know what is up with everything else. I think I've gotten a bit confused. I think it's a nice twist that Bree is now sorta cheating. I really really like Gabrielle and I suffer for her. She's just not good at making decisions. She must have had a horrible childhood to think that money can buy happiness. It just can't. she'd be so much better off with the boy than the man with money.

[Gatito Grande]

So?

Is Rex really dead . . . or just up to something? (We'd just seen him be told info that would lead him to believe that his wife is poisoning him, and then w/ that info, he's writing this incongruous "I understand and forgive you" note, and then . . . kaput? I smell a rat!). Though Bree sure seemed to be picking out suits/ties like she knew what she was doing, so who knows? (This ain't some act of her Evil Spawn, is it?)

Does that mean that Zach, nee' Dana, is Mike's son? (What a prize: I'd reconsider getting that paternity test, Mike!) Poor Susan, all cooped up w/ psycho-boy (and Edie called her a bitch! )

Lynnette going back to work, and Tom as Mr. Mom? Can anybody say "Duh?" (Of course, that means the title will have to change to Desperate Housewives and -husband, but oh well )

Gabby needs to grow up, take care of her kid, and not find her salvation in ANY man or boy.

GG And Alfre Woodard has arrived to bring a lilttle color to Wisteria Lane: what are her secrets??? Out

Edited, to correct: I meant "Lynnette going back to work, of course! (Some of us who were in school forever, yet can't find jobs, get these things confused)

[xita]

wow. i couldn't believe they killed rex. i hope he's pulling a fast one cause in the end, I kinda liked them as a couple.

And is Zach, Mike's kid? hmm... I amazed they pulled that together like that, very good. I loved this show, it was a great surprise and much fun.

And of course lynnette should be going to work, that's only been obvious all year long.

[Hemiola]

Actually, if anyone is responsible for Rex's death, it's the evil pharmacist who didn't fill his prescription properly. Now we'll have to see if he confesses to Bree that his obsession led him to do it, and find out what her reaction is (I'd be worried--she's good with guns! ).

Naturally, we'll have to wait to see if both Susan and Mike escape alive from the clutches of the disturbed Zach/Dana. (BTW, did he kill Martha's sister [Harriet Sansom Harris], or just knock her out with that hockey stick??)

It's gonna be a long summer.....

[BFR from Paris]

Right there with you, Hemiola... What a cliffhanger! And what a great idea to bring back Mary Alice for the finale! It's great that all the questions are answered, it's the opposite of The X-Files

Now in the next season I expect a storyline with the new neighbours, they seemed suspicious (and not because they're black, mind you)

I don't see why (and how) Rex could have faked his death, what surprised me though was that his children were nowhere to be seen, isn't that weird? As for the cause, it's obvious that the pharmacist, when he broke into their house, stuffed some potassium pills in the bottles instead of Rex's heart medicine. I don't see why people are surprised. Poor Bree... And poor Rex who died thinking his wife poisonned him That part was really dark when you think about it!

What a great show!!

[Gatito Grande]

Maybe yes, maybe no (Rex faking death). Who was that on the phone? (I don't think he ID'd himself: if he was the doctor---and medical colleague, whom Bree would very likely know---wouldn't you think he would have said so?)

My main point is that, if he had reason to think Bree was poisoning him, Rex would have motivation to get back at her (and like the proverbial dramatic "gun over the mantle", where there's motivation, there's usually RESULTS!)

GG Thought we might have heard an actual gunshot after Mike stepped in the door: would have given us all summer to speculate "Who Got Shot?" Out

[BFR from Paris]

I think you're reading too much into this, but I guess we'll find out in october

[Warduke]

From TV Guide...

WHAT A PILL: It looks like Bree's psycho stalker will be menacing Wisteria Lane full-time next season. According to Variety, Desperate Housewives lunatic Roger Bart — the psycho pharmacist who killed Marcia Cross' TV hubby Rex in the season finale — is joining the show as a series regular. Speaking of Housewives, more than 30 million viewers watched Sunday's subpar climax. It was the soap's largest audience to date.

[urnofosiris]

Hmm, if he is going to be around all season then they won´t figure out what he did anytime soon. With the promise of next season showing us the darker side of Bree´s son (as if he was not pitch black and rotten this season), I hope it won´t become a year of torturing Bree. That is not something I want to watch. I definitely do not want to see a storyline where she is seriously under investigation for Rex´ death. As for him, I feel sorry for Bree that he is dead, but I do not think he was good enough for her, so I am not sorry to see them seperated. I just wish it was not like this for her sake.

A few episodes ago I wondered whether Zack could be Mike´s child. By now I am definitely hoping he is not. Like Bree´s satanic spawn, he is far too disturbed to walk around freely. Paul did not help him any by his lies, letting him believe he killed his sister (which must probably have let to some serious guilt after Mary-Alice killed herself) and letting him be drugged without proper treatment. I wonder who he was trying to protect when he did that, not the son he supposedly loves so much. Asshole, I won´t mind if he does not walk out of that desert alive. I must say they surprised me whith Mary-Alice turning out to be the killer.

I am happy they resolved some of the ongoing mysteries and set up a few new ones for next season, I would have tuned in without a cliffhanger, but I don´t mind being curious for a few months.

[Warduke]

From AfterEllen...

A DESPERATE LESBIAN?
On an Outfest panel recently, Desperate Housewives creator Marc Cherry said that a lesbian character will likely be introduced on the show at some point (and no, it probably won't be played by Marcia Cross). If network TV history is any guide, I'm guessing it'll be about the same time the show gets an insemination storyline.

[urnofosiris]

I liked the season opening episode, it had the same nice mix of mystery, drama and humor that last season had. I normally do not like a third voice commenting on the story (hated it in Blade Runner and even the yummie Linda Hamilton´s gloomy yapping in T2), but I am really glad that Mary Alice is still talking us through life on Wisteria Lane.
I thought dead Rex looked rather fake, but I am sure he is dead. Him I shall not miss. As for the new neighbour with the what I guess must be crazy or criminal father in the basement, I wonder whether this season is going to revolve around that mystery. Seems rather hard to do. I do not find myself desiring a season arc or exciting mystery. I am quite content watching the day to day messes the ladies get themselves into.
All in all I really enjoyed the episode and am happy the new season started.

[BFR from Paris]

Yeah, that's the best season opener I've seen so far

I love how Gabrielle has absolutely no morals
Bree changing dead Rex's tie was... a little spooky, but the corpse looked really fake, like it came from Madame Tussauds or something, anyway, I fear the return of the pharmacist (run, Bree, run!)
I wonder if Edie's going to go after Mike, now that Susan has dumped him like a big drama queen
Go Lynette, working girl!

And of course... who was the rose for...? Personally, I have no clue.

[Hemiola]

Excellent episode last night (10/2), with fine performances from everyone, but especially Shirley Knight.

So, we have a lot of new mysteries: who is the guy in the cellar, and why is he chained up down there? Why does he appear to be a white guy??

Is Edie badly hurt?

Will Susan and Mike get back together?

Will the jailbird's girlfriend get new boobs?

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[Hemiola]

Some interesting developments last night (10/16)...

First of all, hooray for Mrs. Mulberry!

So the prisoners came to the defense of Gabrielle's honor. Touching

And I just fell on the floor laughing over the contest between Bree's son and the pharmacist--two equally childish individuals fighting over the same woman!

[BFR from Paris]

Some interesting developments last night (10/16)...

Yes, but nothing on the new neighbors...
Susan sending Zach away... that is soooo going to blow up in her face!

And I just fell on the floor laughing over the contest between Bree's son and the pharmacist--two equally childish individuals fighting over the same woman!

Erm actually, George gives me the creeps! Don't forget he managed to beat the lie detector, which makes him extremely dangerous... I'm really worried for Bree

[urnofosiris]

Andrew is just as much a psycho as George and Bree is caught in the middle. I don´t like it at all, that storyline is not for me.
As for Susan sending Zach away, of course it will blow up in her face, but I understand her doing it to protect Julie. He really is deeply disturbed. He beat up that woman, he tried to torch Susan´s house, he tried to kill Mike, he has beaten his murderer of a father who he now apparently is so fond of again. He needs to be locked up and treated for real this time. I am still somewhat puzzled why Mrs Huber´s sister took such an interest in him, why she took him in her house. I wonder if we will find out her motive for doing that instead of just calling the cops on them and I wonder if she will do it after all once Zach returns (which I am sure he will).