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What have W/T meant to you?

Anything about Willow & Tara, Alyson Hannigan and Amber Benson.

Re: Willow and Tara Meant

Postby Lonewolf22 » Mon May 06, 2002 3:20 pm

I don't know what to say that hasn't been said already, what have Willow and Tara meant for me, wow.



They have a meant a lot to me, I never realized how much till just recently with all the bad news coming forth, I just hate this, with everything that I am I hate this, to think that something so beautiful, so wonderful, so magical can just end just like that, hurts beyond anything that I've ever felt before.



I have prayed so much and I have shed so many tears, I just don't know what to do anymore. I will never understand why ME is doing this. I just wish that I knew what was going to happen.



The one I know for sure is that nothing will make me feel the way I feel like seeing Willow and Tara together that is just the best feeling in the world. I hope and pray that I never lose that feeling.



Lonewolf







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Re: Willow and Tara Meant

Postby Katharyn » Mon May 06, 2002 3:23 pm

Forever and Always is possible.





Edited by: Katharyn at: 5/6/02 2:26:09 pm
Katharyn
 


Re: Willow and Tara Meant

Postby WebWarlock » Tue May 07, 2002 8:51 am

Wow.



Lot's a great posts here. Especially Ruth's. (don't worry your snarky, bitter rep is still intact!)



Where to start. Come at this from a very different POV.

I have always loved witches. Ever since I was little, I loved witches. The Jungian in me says it because I am drawn to the dark anima in people. Guess it is no surprise that all my good friends have been extremly strong willed women. But I digress.



I was already into BtVS because of Willow. I love Alyson, she is why I started watching the show. I had her on TV and I was happy.



Fast forward to season 4. Willow meets this shy girl who she begins to cast spells with. I could tell then they were falling in love. When they finally came out with their releationship I was estatic! Yes, now maybe we will get an honest portrayal of a same sex romance.



And we did get a romance. While they were coy on the sex, we saw the love. Theirs was a relationship that the others paled in comparison to. Theirs was/is True Love.



That is why this season has been so hard. I know the course of true love is never easy and real relationships take work, but come on.



I have said all of this before, but it bears repeating.



Warlock

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Willow and Tara

Postby urnofosiris » Thu May 09, 2002 2:35 am

Ah what do Willow and Tara mean to me?



True love, the fabric of life.

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"I am giving you what you need, not what you want"
-The perfect excuse to be an asshole

urnofosiris
 


My Thoughts

Postby wizpup » Thu May 09, 2002 5:59 am

I haven't posted this before because, well just because, but now's the time. This seems the most appropriate place for it, apologies in advance that this will be rather long.



Ok – so this is me. By 15 I knew I was gay and at 17 I had my first girlfriend, and I’m happy to say that my life has been relatively easy. Although I’ve had to make some hard choices and lived through some difficult times, that is no more than should be expected by anyone choosing to take charge of their own life. I’ve never been queer-bashed, never been subject to any obvious discrimination and never been rejected by anyone who really mattered. My family love and accept my partner, we’re out to all our friends, we work together and all our colleagues know that we’re partners.



I’m 32 years old, a grown up with a loving partner, a decent career, a nice house, pretty much everything I could wish for.



So how come I lay in bed this morning crying at the prospect of watching a television show that I have always loved?



I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about it over the last few weeks, ever since I turned into the spoiler whore I always said I would avoid becoming. I know that everything I’m about to write has been said; I know because I’ve read it all, lurking in the background, wondering if I would ever feel the need to say it myself. Well, now I do and I'll thank you now for bearing with me while I spell it out, as much for myself as for anyone else.



I grew up knowing that I was different. All around me I could see images of love, in films, on TV, in music videos and love songs and on the covers of the magazines that every other teenager was reading. All the great love stories, the Gone with the Winds, Casablancas and Wuthering Heights were about the love of a man and a woman. That was great – but it wasn’t me; wouldn’t ever be me. So where did I find the images that told me my own choices were ok? Well the answer is no different for me than for any other lesbian, I didn’t. The images just didn’t exist, and if we’re honest, they still don’t.



Which is why, like thousands of others, I became a subtext hunter, looking for the love stories that could have been, should have been, but never really were. It’s also why I stayed up to an ungodly hour every week to watch shows like Queer as Folk. Ok – so they were blokes, but they were gay blokes and that was closer to me than anything else I’d seen.



So you can imagine, because some of you felt the same, how I felt when one of my favourite characters, on one of my favourite shows did exactly what I had done. She realised that she was gay and fell head over heels in love with a beautiful woman who loved her right back.



I’d spent so long looking for subtext that I didn’t even see it coming. Being completed unspoiled at that time I watched Hush and the following episodes with my usual subtext fantasies, thinking “wouldn’t it be nice if…?” And then along came New Moon Rising and I was completely gobsmacked, I mean surely I was just projecting, if slightly more than usual, but no – this was really happening, right there on the screen in front of my eyes. Willow was gay! You could have knocked me down with an extremely small feather.



And yes, I have the same gripes as everyone else, why did Willow and Tara have to “do spells together” when Riley and Buffy were at it like rabbits? Why did we have to wait so long to see them kiss? Why wasn’t Amber put straight into the credits like Marc Blucas and Michelle Trachtenberg? I could moan on and on, but I won’t and the reason, for me, is clear. It was enough for me to say “look at that, two girls in love!” The fact that there was no hype and no attempt to play the relationship for ratings hardly even registered, although in hindsight I see those as positive moves by the programme makers.



Now I know that there is a lot I should say about the way this has been corrupted at the end. I know all about the lesbian cliché of finally seeing the two girls make up and fall into bed before demonstrating their karmic reward by killing one and turning the other into a world-destroying force for darkness. Intellectually, I know that I should be outraged at the betrayal by the programme makers who promised us so much then slapped us in the face in the most horrific fashion. But to be honest, I can’t get far enough past the sadness for the rage to kick in.



And that’s why I’ll be crying tonight.



Because I’ll miss them.



jo

wizpup
 


Ahhh... love...

Postby oneinten » Thu May 09, 2002 6:34 am

Wow this is the best thread! What to say? After reading all of these posts my heart is over filling. :love



I would have to agree with mostly everyone else on this thread that Willow and Tara have shown me what love can really be. I really didn't start watching Buffy until I noticed Willow and Tara ("I am you know...yours...") and as I'm always trolling for some lesbian action on tv I thought I'd stay awhile. I am so glad I did! Here was a show that finally showed me that the media can indeed portray a lesbian relationship (during primetime no less!) that was healthy and that was so real! They loved each other so much, they had problems and worked through them together! They showed a relationship full of devotion, committment, humour and fun. Friends had problems, they got over it. Family was unaccepting and secrets were hidden but they got through it, they were stronger and they loved each other - truly!



Personally it made me hope that people who didn't understand gay relationships just might get something - anything - out of this portrayal so that they might find a way to open the door of acceptance. I've heard for some it has worked. I don't know. Willow and Tara opened me up to a whole community of kittens who are intelligent, who are supportive and who understand my own devotion to these girls. They have made me feel alot less alone. For that, I am glad! :grin



They have shown me that love does indeed exist on a show between two women and between men and women around this world on one kitten board.



Willow and Tara - two hearts two souls one life



kath

oneinten
 


Re: What have W/T meant to you?

Postby bluewillow » Thu May 09, 2002 7:00 am

They mean everything to me. When Willow and Tara were in the beginning of discovering their feelings for each other I was coincidentally going thru the exact same thing. They showed me that it is possible to be in love with someone and that it doesn't matter what sex they are. That two people can be happy just knowing that everything else in the world can fall apart around you, but as long as you have that one thing keeping you going that is all that matters. And that's all I have to say about that. You guys said everything else.

bluewillow
 


what they have meant to me...

Postby alexis » Thu May 09, 2002 11:07 am

it was like a dream come true. i mean, corny as it may sound, seeing the evolution of willow and tara not only as a couple but as individuals had (and still has) an enormous effect on my life. they made me know that it's okay to be who and what i am. they showed me that true love can exist. for a few minutes of my every week, i feel free. they liberated me in a way that somehow, i am less afraid. they kind'a gave me the confidence to face the world everyday knowing that what other people think doesn't really matter. and most of all, they gave me hope... hope in everything. they mean so much to me and my transformation, so to speak. i'm beginning to be able to talk freely about me being a lesbian, i mean, willow and tara has been a topic of conversation for me and some friends for quite a while now, and i do hope they GET what i'm saying. hmmm... did that make sense?



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oh, and this is completely OT, but i don't know where to post this... but i will here anyway...



a few moments ago, i watched BtVS on Star World (a cable network) they showed Episode No. 2 of Season 5 (yup, they're soooooo behind) and they cut the "You're essential..." scene, and that pretty much made me scream "Sick fucks!!!" in front of my TV, it kind'a alarmed my family and I had to make up a lame excuse for doing so (you know... "Sick fucks!!!" in a Catholic country is not really a very much welcomed way to show disappointment). I mean, Star world, they show stuff like Baywatch where guys gladly shove their tongues into (different) gorls' mouths everytime UNCUT... and then in BtVS, where 2 women who are genuinely in-love show their genuine concern for each other by a simple, non-lusty hug, they cut it up! I wonder what they'll do in "Family"... give us a 47-minute commercial break??? it's a good thing a local tv network here shows the stuff uncut... but i'm not sure for how long. everything here is still in season 5.



okay, thanks for putting up with me.



oh, and angel_iris_sway -- it'sme... the "bathroom girl". :)

alexis
 


Re: what they have meant to me...

Postby BladedAngel » Thu May 09, 2002 12:40 pm

Well Willow and Tara have meant a great deal to me. I've spent most of my life living in denial about being gay, and it took years for me to even accept myself much less anyone else accepting me, and when I finally came to terms with myself and told my friends, I lost nearly all of them. So that sent me into a dark place, where I had no friends or anyone who really cared for about a year and half. Around this time is when they introduced Tara. To be honest, I didn't see or notice anything that would make me believe them to be in a relationship even subtextual until the Big O spell in "Who are you?" then I saw them as a happy gay couple, granted women (me being a gay guy would love to see a good gay male couple anywhere on network TV) but still seeing a happy normal healthy realistically portrayed gay couple of either sex made me indescribably happy. It helped validate my feelings, and it make me believe that how I felt isn't wrong, its perfectly normal.



The Willow and Tara relationship has helped me from a dark place and for that I will forever be indebted to Willow and Tara and the lovely women who portrayed them.

BladedAngel
 


Re: what they have meant to me...

Postby lustitana » Thu May 09, 2002 8:21 pm

They are real love. Proof that two beautiful people can find one another, be in love, better each other and be their own people at the same time. They're the fairy tale romance that we all wish for. I can't say how many times I've watched them and wished for the day that someone would kiss me, touch me, smile at me that way.



And in my world they get their happily ever after.

Those who sacrifice beauty for effieciency get what they deserve.

lustitana
 


What Willow & Tara mean to me

Postby caged heart » Thu May 09, 2002 9:48 pm

Willow & Tara mean that I can look at mainstream TV and see people who are like me. In every one of their sweet exchanges, in their pain, and in their happiness I can always see something that reminds me of the way I have felt at one time or another. They just make my heart melt. Sometimes they also remind me of my girlfriend and I, especially at the beginning of their relationship.



As someone (sorry, I forget your name) posted already, Willow & Tara meant that lesbians no longer had watch TV between the lines. They weren't 1 sweeps-week-ratings-ploy-kiss ala Party of Five or Ally McBeal. They weren't a few-episode-subplot-soon-to-be-forgotten ala ER. They are a real, honest, loving couple, BOTH of whom are main characters. (As far as I'm concerned anyway, regardless of whether or not Tara is in the credits.) I'm actually glad that it took so long to show anything physical between them. It made the love that much more important. I'm also really glad that their first on screen kiss happened the way it did - no hype, not even a mention of it in any previews. And it came out of love, not lust. Yes, I know that lesbians are sexual just like heterosexual couples, but so often any gay movie or TV show is all about sex :::coughqueerasfolkcough::: It was nice to see them as a loving couple and not a hyped-up sex scene.



Anyway, I digress. For me, Willow & Tara represent the epitome of what romance on TV can be. I don't think the powers that be realize exactly how important this relationship is to the gay community.



Willow & Tara are true love at its finest.

caged heart
 


Re: Willow and Tara Meant

Postby June Leigh » Sat May 11, 2002 12:27 am

They gave me hope that things were getting better. That network t.v. could show a loving and healthy lesbian relationship without shame gave me hope that maybe gay/lesbian/bi people will be more accepted into mainstream America. Personally, they gave me hope that one day I might find someone as wonderful as Willow or Tara. Willow and Tara will always remain in my heart.



Edited to say yay, I'm a floating rose!

Edited by: June Leigh at: 7/12/02 5:22:15 pm
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Re: Willow and Tara Mean

Postby pleasantlyblue » Sat May 11, 2002 3:13 am

(I'm also in the 'refuse to speak in past tense' camp)



Everyone wants a 'happy ever after' story, right?

Thats what Willow and Tara are to me.

And they always will be.

They give me hope for my own 'happy ever after' story.



It's also good to see a lesbian relationship presented in a positive way on mainstream tv. I cant even begin to articulate what that must mean for the many thousands of kids out there who are confused as hell (i know i was) or just coming to terms with their sexuality. And the fact its a *real* relationship, not just about sex like many other gay relationships on tv means a lot.



So to me, Willow and Tara are:

Hope

Love

and hot Girl-on-Girl action.



All the good things in life. :)













the girl of my dreams is giving me nightmares

AIM: thiscalamity

pleasantlyblue
 


Re: Willow and Tara Mean

Postby Tiggrscorpio » Sun May 12, 2002 8:22 pm

It's taken me a long time to respond to this thread. I've tried not thinking about it. Clinging to the very last possible hope that the ending of last weeks episode wasn't real. But now, it seems necessary to face the possibility that Tara may be gone forever.



I believe in true love. I always have. The romantic in me has always loved the fairy tale ending. Being a lesbian though, it was necessary to revise certain aspects of the story to fit my needs. But, the ending was always the same. The soulmates always found each other and they always LIVED happily ever after.



My life has been less than stellar in the last 12 months. I took a job several hundred miles away from my few family and friends. The position hasn't worked out for me and I will be leaving next month, after my year commitment is complete. I haven't done a great job of maintaining my friendships and going back home doesn't seem to be the answer. And, after five years, I'm sill pining for "my Willow" who got away. (Yes, in my fantasy, I am Tara. :) )



The one great thing that happened this year was that I found Willow and Tara. What can I say, I'm always the last one to know. I heard about them and decided to tune in. Thankfully, FX had begun rerunning the series, so I quickly caught up on the magic.



I was blown away by the sheer romance. What I loved most was that the show never obsessed over the fact that they were two women. This was about two hearts that belonged together, always and forever. Both of them being women was an added bonus. Sure most of their relationship was implied in the beginning, but thanks to the talents of AB and AH the love between W/T just leapt off the screen. Only these two brilliant actresses could make hand holding so damn sexy.



And as the season's went on we were given more and more intimacy. The back hug in 'Real Me' gave me tingles. And, when Tara crawled under the covers in 'Family' my heart soared. The kiss in 'The Body' was not played for sensationalism or ratings, but as a real and tender moment between a couple dealing with a loss. It was beautiful and poignant and something I could relate to. It captivated me in a way that no show ever has before. Finally, I could look to the media and see a positive example of my own life. And, I could turn to those in my world who have had trouble accepting who I am and say, "this is the way I love. It's good, it's beautiful and there isn't anything wrong about it. I'm not, however, a witch."



So, season six began and we immediately were given more and more intimacy. Sure they broke up, but that happens in real life. I held on to the belief that they would find each other. The reward was a scene that blew me away. Never did I ever believe network TV would show two women, naked in bed and kissing during prime time. And the show wasn't proceeded by disclaimers advising parental warnings. And networks and advertisers weren't boycotting the airing of the episode, like they did when Ellen came out. This was real progress.



Joss made me believe. He made me believe my life was as representative as everyone else. These beautiful characters were hope for a future. A future where maybe the gay teenager isn't bashed or left to feel that suicide is their only choice. A future where two men or two women can walk down the street, holding hands or showing affection, and not fear for their safety. A future where true love reigned over ignorance and intolerance.



Willow and Tara were my hope. Though it is now tainted, I still believe in true love. And, I still believe in them.

*****

She's my everything!

Tiggrscorpio
 


Willow and Tara mean....

Postby orion » Sun May 12, 2002 10:35 pm

Well I'm not speaking in past tense either because I still live in a world were everything works out for the best and everyone gets a happy endding. As far as what Willow and Tara mean to me, well they have made my life very different. When I first saw OMWF I realised my true feelings. Without going into detail... Willow and Tara mean everything to me.

orion
 


Re: What have W/T meant to you?

Postby alyamber4ever » Wed May 15, 2002 12:06 am

Everything. They were everything to me. I am such HUGE fans of Amber and Aly. I loved seeing them as a couple. They had such a beautiful relationship. The only reason I'm such a huge fan of Buffy the Vampire Slayer is cuz there was Willow and Tara. I feel like I've lost something that meant so much to me and that is Tara. I still have hope though that maybe some way they will get her back. I don't know how and I don't know when, but keep the faith.....it COULD happen. On Buffy,....anything is possible.

alyamber4ever
 


Re: What have W/T meant to you?

Postby slayer747 » Fri May 17, 2002 7:03 am

willow and tara, fictional their characters maybe, gave me this sense of hope and faith that things could be good again. they are the epitome of the relationship i wanna have someday, one that is based on trust, and compassion. when one is not strong the other will be for them both, and will love each other no matter what.



i have hit rock bottom, i know what it is like to be depressed and lonely and to have no one to understand and listen. i've had fears that the people i love will not understand, but their relationship and the way their friends are towards them (and their relationship) kind of told me that it can't be that bad for too long. you know... the "light at the end of the tunnel" thing...



but then again, they killed tara... and somehow... i felt betrayed. i trusted the message BtVS sent towards young people like me only to tear it into pieces...



well, cliche, but sometimes, the light at the end of the tunnel really only is an oncoming train.

Magic happens.

Edited by: slayer747  at: 7/8/02 9:23:39 pm
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Re: Willow and Tara Meant

Postby Taz » Mon May 20, 2002 2:14 am

Growing up I had a bit of a time, my parents divorced when I was young and I was thrust into a world unknown to me, the world known as the united states. I was suddenly surronded by what felt like the utter and complete abscence of love, everything was about obligation and responsibility. Most of my family is or was married out of one of those two things but, rarely out of love. As odd as it may sounds I never really thought that a relationship could survive and grow out of love until Willow and Tara. I love my wife very much but, sometimes when we've gotten into a fight, i've told her love doesn't fix everything. After being under their spell for these last few years I do know that while love doesn't fix everything it certainly can mend and be a the foundation for eveything. Love can overcome addictions, loneliness, bad clothing and yeah even stuttering. Thanks to Willow and Tara I'm not so quick to say love can't fix everything because of Willow and Tara I think first well hey, maybe it can't fix everything but love is reason enough to try extra hard to mend and grow.

Some people may say their just TV characters but for me they've meant tears, joy, laughter and even a little sorrow. They've taught me that yes, love can indeed and often does conquer all. Most importantly though they've taught me to never underestimate the grace and dignity of the human spirit.



Amber and Alyson are both very special to me and will always hold a very special place in my heart for the work that they have done as Willow and Tara. Playing lesbians is not for everyone and probably could even cause problems in ones acting career but, they have my complete and total respect for all of time and eternity.

"Gay people are like blondes: There are fewer of us, but we have more fun" --Rita Mae Brown,

Taz
 


Re: What have W/T meant to you?

Postby alyamber4ever » Mon May 20, 2002 3:25 am

Just seeing W/T together means so much to me. The smiles they give each other. The way their eyes are just fixated on each other from time to time. It's so sweet and precious. I hope someday I'm able to find someone as sweet as the two of them. And be as happy as they were together.



I :love :willow and :tara

alyamber4ever
 


Re: What have W/T meant to you?

Postby willowluvztara18 » Mon May 20, 2002 5:28 am

iam a lesbain and i reamber before i came out i was aso scared that i would lose so much and may never be happy i live in nc and in a small city that has a 2 or 3churchs on every street (hickory isn't that small just to me b'c i've lived here most of my life) but to see tara and willow togher happy in love and the show "family" will to see tara's background willl it gave me hope that it could be worth loseing everyone i called my friend and even most of my family and thats what happend but all the same i have hope that one day i will be happy and i have been out and proud for a bit over a year now willow and tara has ment the world to me they gave me hope that i so needed and that extra push to come out one day i can only hope to have something like willow and tara have

~wendy

willowluvztara18
 


Re: What have W/T meant to you?

Postby El Gato » Mon May 20, 2002 6:52 pm

like Scarecrow & slayer747, I too, suffer from depression. So do Willow & Tara. W&T are VERY real to me. Part of the magick of the show perhaps.



They provide hope. That is MORE than enuf.



They inspire me to be a better husband & father. Sometimes you have to just say "Can't you just be kissing me now"



They are people that I would be proud to call "friend." I would be honored if they would have me as their friend.



Is there anything better than that?

to help & to heal, to honor the Mother in all that we do.

El Gato
 


Re: What have W/T meant to you?

Postby vmpIrslAr » Mon May 20, 2002 7:28 pm

I think everyone has covered all the bases that I wanted to cover, so I just want to concur with everything said.



True love

Helping me discover who I am

Showing me it's okay (gay relationships) and it can be wonderful



They changed my life and I will always keep them close to my heart.





vmpIrslAr
 


Re: What have W/T meant to you?

Postby Persephone » Mon May 20, 2002 7:54 pm

I also think everyone has stated exactly how I feel, although you all did it far more eloquently than I could hope to.



Every Tuesday night I tuned in to see what would happen with Willow and Tara. They are the brightest, most pure couple I’ve ever seen. They show what real and true love can be. Love isn’t always perfect, but it’s real. And they had it. I am loath to use the word ‘soulmates’ as I feel it’s been overused in this society. However, I very much believe that Tara and Willow are halves of each other’s souls. Their relationship is *the* thing that kept me hooked. As a questioning 20 year old who has never had the opportunity to date, and who has parents who very much disapprove of homosexuality- Willow and Tara gave me a new perspective. They gave me a shining example of what love can be. It doesn’t matter what gender each partner is. Willow and Tara are and always be the most pure couple in my mind. Seeing them support each other through thick and thin, allowing us to be almost a part of their relationship- that is something extremely special in my eyes.



It's so hard for me to put into words what I feel. I'll just once again say "ditto" to what everyone else has said. It's so wonderful to see how much impact Willow and Tara had on everyone's lives. They truly are a special, special couple.



Tara: ”That was funny if you've studied Taglarin mystic rites and…are a total dork.”
"My lesbianism is an act of Christian charity. All those women out there are praying for a man, and I'm giving them my share."

Persephone
 


Re: What have W/T meant to you?

Postby urnofosiris » Tue May 21, 2002 2:21 am

Persephone I think you expressed yourself beautifully :) , but I was somewhat hindered in reading your post by me pressing my nose against the screen and trying to peer down Tara's negligee



It does not work that way though. Bummer.

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"I am giving you what you need, not what you want"
-The perfect excuse to be an asshole

urnofosiris
 


Re: Willow and Tara Meant

Postby AmbersSecretAdmirer » Tue May 21, 2002 10:47 am

Okay. They meant everything to me. They represent hope that you can find love against the odds. Love that will protect you (even from yourself), warm you against the cold and hold you when you feel alone and unwanted.



I think they gave us all hope. Their's was a pure love, and the only true relationship of any substance on the show.



Both Alyson and Amber deserve no end of plaudits for their portrayal.



I love them! All sane and open-minded people love them! Joss has to bring them back.

AmbersSecretAdmirer
 


Re: Willow and Tara Meant

Postby Persephone » Tue May 21, 2002 11:05 am

DrG- Why thank you! I'm glad it made sense. Ha, so you had that problem too? We *must* find a way to fix that so we can see down fully;) You know, between Tara cleavage, Tara leg, and nekkid Tara under a blanket- it's lucky I have some brain left to think rationally.



AmbersSecretAdmirer: That was beautiful! Indeed, they truly are hope.



While Marti and ME may have violated us, Willow, and Tara- they can never violate our memories or how our own personal feelings about Willow and Tara.

Tara: ”That was funny if you've studied Taglarin mystic rites and…are a total dork.”
"My lesbianism is an act of Christian charity. All those women out there are praying for a man, and I'm giving them my share."

Edited by: Persephone at: 5/21/02 10:11:21 am
Persephone
 


Re: Willow and Tara Meant

Postby Epicurus » Mon Jul 08, 2002 10:50 am

So I had this posted at the angry rant thead although it isn't anger but still ranty I guess this place is more appropiate.

I can’t help but feel more sadness than anger. Willow and Tara have helped so many people (including me) and now all I think about is those who haven’t found them yet. The person who happens to catch a rerun or the person who accidentally stumbles upon the Kitten or an Amber fan page. Those people won’t get the same benefits I got to experience. The one thing about W/T is that they just pull you in and make you feel like you’re apart of something special.

I’m one of the lucky ones because I remember a time when I said to myself this could last forever and nothing could tear them apart. I remember the way I felt when I first saw them kiss and the way I felt when I saw them lay under the stars together or hold hands or hug or caress each other. But now the relationship is forever tainted but mostly for the people who weren’t as lucky to catch it the first time round. Sure, watching the old episodes make be sad because I know Tara’s dead. I don’t know if that feeling will ever go away but the one thing I do know is this: Willow and Tara’s relationship created enough hope inside me that it helped me come to the realization and acceptance of who I am. Is it possible for someone just like me to now get as much from them as I did given the horrible demise and awful statements we see as a result…? I dunno, to me, this is the worst consequence of Joss’ decision.






"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance
and conscientious stupidity."

- Martin Luther King, Jr.

Edited by: Epicurus at: 7/8/02 9:51:53 am
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Re: Willow and Tara Meant

Postby xita » Mon Jul 08, 2002 12:16 pm

That's the thing, they have that love, forever, true. It was tangible, so true. It was the thing we all aspire to. It seemed never ending. The unquestionable, the way things should be.

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What's this? Bag of tricks?

Pack of lies

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Re: what they have meant to me...

Postby Puff » Mon Jul 08, 2002 4:56 pm

There are some beautiful posts here and most of them boil down to the love that is tangible between Willow and Tara.



I wish I was eloquent but here goes nothing. What they both mean to me? They gave me hope that two people could be happy, practically radiant with happiness in fact. They gave me support that there were other people like me out there that I wasn't alone and they meant that this board was created where I still find support today. They gave me comfort that I could find someone and find (if I was lucky) something like what they have and I guess I can thank them for that. And finally they gave me some peace that all the negative thoughts in my head directed at myself were not true.



Now I can face other people and be proud of who I am and how far I have come and I guess in part I owe it to them and the wonderful people that portray them. Willow and Tara. Aly and Amber. Thank you.

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You know, it's a real deal relationship and that's why people can relate to it
Amber Benson

Edited by: Puff  at: 7/8/02 3:58:19 pm
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Re: what they have meant to me...

Postby slayer747 » Mon Jul 08, 2002 10:30 pm

the world. i have been struggling with my sexuality since the dawn of time, and there was a time when i almost gave up (meaning, i wanted to just go with the flow, be heterosexual as much as possible) but then there was willow and tara and their love. it gave me hope. they made me believe that it is okay to be gay. that is natural. what they symbolize made me believe in myself enough to brave being different. they somehow told me that it is perfectly okay to feel what i am feeling. that happiness is still possible and will someday knock on my door. that's how much they mean to me.

"Sometimes things happen between people that you don't really expect. And sometimes the things that are important are the ones that seem the weirdest or the most wrong, and those are the ones that change your life." - Jessie "Once and Again"

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