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General Season 6 SPOILERS - Part 4: Save Tito!

Postby april » Mon Jan 07, 2002 1:03 pm

the old spoiler thread outgrew its box, so now we have a shiny new one!

for reference purposes, here's a link to the previous spoiler thread, The Search for Spock

and for those of you who don't understand this thread's subject line, please refer to pages 29-35 of the old spoiler thread. all will be revealed.

edited to add: the old spoiler thread seems to have grown some more room, but since these things are rather unpredictable on novogate, we decided to go with this one anyway. nothing should stand between whores and their spoilers!

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General Season 6 SPOILERS - Part 4: Save Tito!

Postby lion + dove » Mon Jan 07, 2002 1:27 pm

ohh fresh and shiny spoiler thread *runs hand over smooth chrome*
the old spoiler thread was getting way unwieldy

so who exactly is tito?

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General Season 6 SPOILERS - Part 4: Save Tito!

Postby BBOvenGuy » Mon Jan 07, 2002 1:36 pm

In "Bargaining," Xander makes a joke and when all the girls don't get it, he says "I so need to get some male friends. There's this guy, Tito..." In "Flooded" we actually get to meet Tito, and we find out he's a plumber.

As for the rest... you've either got to go read the old thread for yourself or just wait for the 'shippers to find the new thread.

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Postby Dr.G » Mon Jan 07, 2002 1:38 pm

He is Xander's one and only true love. Anyway I am reposting AngelX' spoilers which can be found here.

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Doublemeat Palace


Ep: 12. Writer: Jane Espenson. (This info was "prior to filming" info, which is subject to change on the set/cutting room.)


With the super villains mysteriously "gone" for the ep, the show returns to a good monster-of-the-week episode. And the hero of the episode? Not Buffy.


Buffy gets a job in fast food (hence the title), and when co-workers start ending up in pieces, the mystery behind the meat comes into question.


Willow works on staying clear of magic, but Amy gives her an unwanted gift and Willow is forced to make a big decision.


Buffy tries to ignore the temptation that is Spike, but fails. A little sexual taunting and innuendo turns into much more.


A vengeance demon friend of Anya's visits and Anya's life as a demon and her relationship with Xander is questioned and thought about by the soon-to-be-wed couple.


Dead Things


Ep: 13. Airdate: 2/5/01 (tentative). Writer: Steven S. DeKnight. Director: James A Contner


This will *not* be lighthearted. Mostly dark material (sex/violence) and some scenes that may not make it to air.


NEW! Warren uses another gadget to make his ex-girlfriend Katrina a willing slave to him and his pals, but when the effects wear off and Katrina tries to escape the grasp of the nerdy supervillains, she's accidentally killed. (This is the death of the episode and this is probably the real source of the "rape" rumors. There is no actual rape scene, but indications and accusations of non-consensual behavior.)


NEW! There is a cute post-sex scene between Buffy and Spike where they chat about decorating and their relationship. (I will not be addressing the nature of the other sexual material of this episode on this page due to the potential for removal from the ep and the lack of necessity for raunchy details. Check the spoiler board--check, do not start new threads to ask about it--or e-mail me privately for details if it's a concern for you.)


NEW! With the use of magic and demonic forces, Warren and friends set up Buffy to make her think *she* killed Katrina--and it works.


UPDATED Spike tries to help Buffy after the incident and keep her from confessing to the crime, but his efforts, including voluntarily taking a vicious verbal/physical thrashing from the Slayer, are useless. (Spike's efforts are useless, that doesn't mean Buffy confesses.)


Dawn and Xander waltz together in preparation for Xander's wedding--to Anya. (Jeez, ya silly people. There is no Dawn/Xander romance!)


NEW! Buffy discovers the truth behind her returning back to life "wrong." It's the worst thing she could want it to be.


NEW! After learning about the spell that brought her back, Buffy confesses to Tara the truth about her and Spike and amidst all her confusion and shame, breaks down into tears.


Older and Far Away


Ep: 14. Airdate: 2/19/02 (tentative).


NEW! Buffy's birthday ep. A party gathers at the Summers house with the usual suspects and a few old and new faces as well. Surprisingly, the party itself goes of without much complication, but the next morning is another story.


NEW! Denied necessary attention from her sister and others, Dawn's wish to keep people from going away is answered by a demonic friend who binds the attendees of Buffy's birthday bash to the house. Of course, with a dangerous monster also confined with them.


NEW! Dawn's stealing habits are discovered.


UPDATED Jealousy runs wild as Xander and Anya set Buffy up with a guy at her party and Spike shows up unexpected by Buffy.


NEW! Anya freaks about being locked in the house, but Xander is there to calm and reassure her that everything is okay.


Tara is very much alive at the end of this ep. (She doesn't die in this ep and not before it.)


As You Were


Ep: 15. Airdate: 2/26/02 (tentative).


NEW! Riley returns for an episode. Not dead but of the living...and married. Buffy's own "relationship" with Spike comes into question when her ex's perfect romance shows her just what she doesn't have.



and the detailed scene from the Bronze, which can be found here:

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more from michele

I was gonna put this part off until Monday, but forgot about that little note on spoilage I posted about looking for this, and so I have to unless I want to reply to a billion e-mails all week!

I do not mind if this summary is reposted somewhere but I want my name and the site's name kept GLUED to it. I will not respond kindly to those who try to take credit for this summary in ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM! I *really* don't have to give this to anyone and I am, so be nice or deal with me pissed off.

The following contains detailed spoilers of one scene in "Dead Things" along with spoilers for "Doublemeat Palace," and references to the content of "Dead Things." If you are just partially spoiled and don't want to know lots about the episode, I wouldn't recommend reading this. If you have specific questions about one thing or another, feel free to e-mail me or reply to THIS POST. DO NOT START NEW THREADS TO ASK ME QUESTIONS!

For young readers and parents, I tried not to be vulgar, but some details are necessary for the explanation. Please be warned. Spoilers and semi-specific talk of sex (and sexual practices) described below.

...BRONZE SCENE...

On the second floor of the Bronze, in the shadows but at the edge of the walkway overlooking the lower floor, Spike approaches from behind and *ahem* takes Buffy from behind as he tells her watch her friends on the floor below. He tells her she no longer belongs in that world, she belongs in the shadows with him. He taunts her about their current activity and makes her feel guilty and bad because they're getting away with what they're doing with her friends so close and if they only knew, what would they think of her? Buffy just stands there and takes it, looking as guilty as she feels.
No one sees, as far as the script is concerned and no one is hurt. But the scene is described thrust for thrust, hot breath for hot breath and although not violent like "Smashed," it should give the final scene of that ep a run for its money if the scene makes it to air.

...EXPLANATION AND FURTHER DISCUSSION...

My issue with the scene has nothing to do with the publicness of the sex or the sex in general. It's the characters' behaviors and reactions. And before the attacks start, it's not that I don't believe the characters are *capable* of these behaviors, there is just no prep for it. My main issue with this episode script is a lack of explanation for the complete 180 some characters go through.

Normally, I wouldn't jump to conclusions like this, but I've seen the script for "Doublemeat Palace" which airs before and a quickie against an alley wall doesn't explain to me the character changes of this ep. Scenes go from one thing to another and it seems like fans are just expected to understand the reasoning for dramatic changes in character actions.

In a matter of a few scenes, Buffy has resigned herself to having sex with Spike and it's almost as if she's not even doing it for a reason anymore. Suddenly games of bondage and meaningless sex within eyerange of her friends are just another part of her life. Not that they're *bad* things, just odd in the course of events. With this episode coming in between two happier eps, the characters just don't seem the same. It's Happy Buffy (12), then Depressed, Submissive Buffy (13), then Happy Buffy again (14).

But, I know this could all be seen in a different light when the episode airs so I'm honestly keeping a very open mind and hope everyone else does too. I despise judging episodes before I've seen them and I'm really not trying to. I'm just, if nothing else, concerned by the content of this episode as it is written in the script. I apologize if my earlier comments were taken in the wrong way or if I said things that made people get the wrong impression about this scene. It wasn't my intention to do so. It's impossible to word my spoilers and comments in a way that won't be taken wrong by someone.

Personally, I'm not thrilled with this unexplained change in the characters and I don't like seeing female characters demeaned/abused (and Buffy's not the *only* example of this in this episode) in a sexual fashion. Then again, maybe it's just the Buffy fan in me who knows this show is better than another episode with about half of the content centered on sex and seeing how far the censors can be pushed. The rest, with exception of a few Scooby or sad scenes is just about entirely violence. Including the Bronze scene, there are 4 sex moments/scenes and at least 2 examples of severe violence.

Whatever happens with the ep, I can't say I would recommend it to young viewers. Plot-wise, it a very action-packed episode with lots of big "affect the rest of the season" changes, but still... Whether it be for the sexual content or the violence, I think parents may find it best to screen the episode first before letting younger watchers actually see it.

For mature viewers, I'm not recommending one way or another whether this episode is worth watching. That would be crazy to try and do based on a script. I always *try* to get people to tune into the show, especially by using my spoilers, but considering the nature of the episode, I also consider it important for fans to know what they're getting in the case that they want to know. The episode *is* very important plot wise and I really would recommend that mature viewers watch it.

Judge for yourself, don't let my opinions and descriptions scare you off. Just be cautious and know that the ep would be best for a mature audience.
On a personal note, thanks to all who were understanding about my position in this little spoiler situation. Your kind words were appreciated. As for those who didn't appreciate getting just my comments on the scene rather than the actual description... pity.



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posted January 07, 2002 15:44               
thanks BBOvenGuy... I read all the pro-tito/anti-tito, x/t shipping, fan fic, etc. in the other spoiler thread. but twas late and could never get a concrete image of the guy (i watched flooded in a hospital waiting room- never conducive to seeing or catching an entire episode- i missed the actual "flooded" part of flooded)...

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posted January 07, 2002 15:52               
yes, thanks for the explanation, cause i was thinking tito jackson, and it was making no sense.

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posted January 07, 2002 16:31               
This was posted today at
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Buffy (TV): 'SWERJ' talks about the mid-late section of the sixth season which'll air in coming months, MAJOR spoilers ahead:
"Rumors have been abounding that in Feburary sweeps, a major character will be killed off on "Buffy" but no word on who. However, some reports have been coming out that it might not be "death" death------as in, the character may end up becoming a vampire or demon. This might point towards Anya (Emma Caufield) as there have been rumors that she would regain her demonic powers just before her wedding to Xander. It's close to the vest as always with Wheldon and this wouldn't be the first time false rumors have been spread to throw fans off".

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Wheldon? he he!

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It's close to the vest as always with Wheldon

Um, isn't the phrase "Close to the chest?"

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posted January 07, 2002 16:59               
Well, in spite of the spelling errors this is definitely a real report, because SWERJ is sort of the Herc there at Dark Horizons. These spelling errors and such are his, it's not the first time he's forgotten to use a spell checker. In any case this post is just his speculation, but it's interesting that he mentions reports that the death may not be a real death.

Xander/Tito forever!

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posted January 07, 2002 17:06               
Xander/Tito? Did I miss something?

I only stay away from the Net for a week, and a whole new ship is born.

Well, when it comes to u/c male slash couples, I say S/X forever!

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posted January 07, 2002 17:13               
You don't know about Xander/Tito? The floating crescent wrench scene? Titohand? 'Under Your Sink' sung by Xander so lovingly? It's the second most romantic relationship on Buffy today!

Tito: Every time I...even when I'm at my worst, you always make me feel special. How do you that?

Xander: Beer.

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posted January 07, 2002 17:19            
I heard that Tito is writing a comic about the new relationship....

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posted January 07, 2002 17:39            
This is from Sweetie at fan forum:

"The Spike/Tara interaction in ep 14 is great. She basically teases Spike. For example, she catches him trying to move Buffy's hand to his crotch and he says he has a "muscle cramp". Tara's like, "In your pants?" Later on, he starts to tease Buffy about something and Tara asks him about his "muscle cramp". Then she tells him to put ice on it. "

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posted January 07, 2002 17:41               
Okay, Sweetie just posted some new spoilers at fanforum. And yes they include the Tara dies rumor but....

The reason I'm alerting you is there is some really cute Tara/Spike interaction in epi 14 so it's worth looking at for this.

I've lived for the day that Tito was recognised with a thread in his honor; I choked up when I saw it.

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posted January 07, 2002 17:44               
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Originally posted by Blixxt:
some reports have been coming out that it might not be "death" death

As if this topic could get any more vague...

Edited to ask: Do these latest Sweetie spoilers have any details to go with the Tara death rumor, or is it just the same old thing again?

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posted January 07, 2002 17:55               
No details re The Subject In Question

But the Spike/Tara stuff is obviously from a script and very cute


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posted January 07, 2002 17:56               
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Tito: Every time I...even when I'm at my worst, you always make me feel special. How do you that?

Xander: Beer.


Ok, that's the second time today something from the Net made me laugh so loud it earned me a weird look from my boyfriend! Apparently then, I've been missing out on the new BTVS 'true love'.I am now a converted Xander/Tito shipper.


And I really hope the spoilers about Tara teasing Spike about him and Buffy are true.
What's not to love about this spoiler? Sarcastic, saucy Tara, and two of my favorite charaters actually interacting!

I think S6 is turning into my favorite BTVS season!And I suspect UPN has something to do with it.It almost makes me forgive them for throwing the abomination known as wrestling on the world!

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posted January 07, 2002 17:59               
* sigh *

I'm getting to the point where I hope someone dies just so we can get it over with and all these rumor mongers will shut up. I'd hate to think we're going to be fending off Tara death rumors all the way to Memorial Day...

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posted January 07, 2002 18:14               
more wanda . and before we even start it again, I have already read all the wanda-bashing any of us need to hear... yes, yes, I know all her faults... but it's still possible spoiler material for us shameless spoiler ho's. plus you get to read about how Joss is none to happy with her:
[First she admits that the Giles kills Spike spoiler was shamelessly false (part of game) and that James Marsters is signed through Season 7]:

"cont.. out such a big spoiler." So true, Leslie! And since I'm STILL on thin ice after breaking the news that Marc Blucas was leaving last season, my lips are unfortunately SEALED about an upcoming cast change. Grrrr, argh, indeed."

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posted January 07, 2002 18:51               
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Originally posted by Reddygirl:
Okay, Sweetie just posted some new spoilers at fanforum. And yes they include the Tara dies rumor but....

The reason I'm alerting you is there is some really cute Tara/Spike interaction in epi 14 so it's worth looking at for this.


Ok, the S/T interaction sounds great, but I am getting so sick of the Tara dies rumors. I really wish the staff would confirm or deny (although Marti's comments seemed like a pretty good denial)

Ya know what frustrates me most is that it's so hard to prove a negative. I imagine we'll be facing these rumors all season (assuming Tara does survive Feb. sweeps) When it doesn't happen, we'll be told it was pushed back or that plans must have changed. Sigh.

Sorry to rant, I'm feeling kinda cranky

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posted January 07, 2002 19:11               
Oh my frickin' god! That rumor just keeps on a comin'! Since I wasn't around here when Marc Blucas left, can someone please tell me at what point you had confirmed spoilers he was leaving? I'm only asking because to me it was clear for a long, long time in the storyline that he was on his way out and I wondered how the storyline and spoiler timelines compare.

Because I see NOTHING to indicate Tara is a goner. Just the opposite. On the one hand, we have this one unconfirmed rumor that won't die and, on the other hand, we've got a storyline that seems to be pulling Tara back into the Scoobs, foreshadowing up the wazoo that she and Willow are true loves that will "find each other" again, quotes from Joss saying he loves Amber and will never get rid of her, quotes from Marti saying Tara's demise is being "blown out of proportion," Amber being held up as the BtVS promotional "ambassador" of late, and no indication that Amber is shopping herself for other parts.

I'm SOOOO sick of this.

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posted January 07, 2002 19:26            
I have it on "good authority" that "Tito the Terrible" as he is known throughout the demonic universe is going to turn Xander to the dark side and into a Demon.
Xander will be the Wood Demon. He is the one that makes all those awful noises you hear at night when you think your house is settling.

Can someone please post Sweetie's new rumours?
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posted January 07, 2002 19:27               
LOL. Thanks, Paula

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posted January 07, 2002 19:28               
*snickers* Wood Demon *snicker* *refrains from jokes about Anya's predilections* *snickers again* *has yet to achieve a 5 year old's level of maturity* *snickers again*

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thanks BBOvenGuy... I read all the pro-tito/anti-tito, x/t shipping, fan fic, etc. in the other spoiler thread. but twas late and could never get a concrete image of the guy (i watched flooded in a hospital waiting room- never conducive to seeing or catching an entire episode- i missed the actual "flooded" part of flooded)...

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posted January 07, 2002 15:52               
yes, thanks for the explanation, cause i was thinking tito jackson, and it was making no sense.

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This was posted today at
Dark Horizons
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Buffy (TV): 'SWERJ' talks about the mid-late section of the sixth season which'll air in coming months, MAJOR spoilers ahead:
"Rumors have been abounding that in Feburary sweeps, a major character will be killed off on "Buffy" but no word on who. However, some reports have been coming out that it might not be "death" death------as in, the character may end up becoming a vampire or demon. This might point towards Anya (Emma Caufield) as there have been rumors that she would regain her demonic powers just before her wedding to Xander. It's close to the vest as always with Wheldon and this wouldn't be the first time false rumors have been spread to throw fans off".

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posted January 07, 2002 16:31                This was posted today at
Dark Horizons
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Buffy (TV): 'SWERJ' talks about the mid-late section of the sixth season which'll air in coming months, MAJOR spoilers ahead:
"Rumors have been abounding that in Feburary sweeps, a major character will be killed off on "Buffy" but no word on who. However, some reports have been coming out that it might not be "death" death------as in, the character may end up becoming a vampire or demon. This might point towards Anya (Emma Caufield) as there have been rumors that she would regain her demonic powers just before her wedding to Xander. It's close to the vest as always with Wheldon and this wouldn't be the first time false rumors have been spread to throw fans off".

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Wheldon? he he!

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It's close to the vest as always with Wheldon

Um, isn't the phrase "Close to the chest?"

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Um, isn't the phrase "Close to the chest?"

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Well, in spite of the spelling errors this is definitely a real report, because SWERJ is sort of the Herc there at Dark Horizons. These spelling errors and such are his, it's not the first time he's forgotten to use a spell checker. In any case this post is just his speculation, but it's interesting that he mentions reports that the death may not be a real death.

Xander/Tito forever!

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posted January 07, 2002 16:59                Well, in spite of the spelling errors this is definitely a real report, because SWERJ is sort of the Herc there at Dark Horizons. These spelling errors and such are his, it's not the first time he's forgotten to use a spell checker. In any case this post is just his speculation, but it's interesting that he mentions reports that the death may not be a real death.

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Xander/Tito? Did I miss something?

I only stay away from the Net for a week, and a whole new ship is born.

Well, when it comes to u/c male slash couples, I say S/X forever!

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You don't know about Xander/Tito? The floating crescent wrench scene? Titohand? 'Under Your Sink' sung by Xander so lovingly? It's the second most romantic relationship on Buffy today!

Tito: Every time I...even when I'm at my worst, you always make me feel special. How do you that?

Xander: Beer.

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posted January 07, 2002 17:13                You don't know about Xander/Tito? The floating crescent wrench scene? Titohand? 'Under Your Sink' sung by Xander so lovingly? It's the second most romantic relationship on Buffy today!

Tito: Every time I...even when I'm at my worst, you always make me feel special. How do you that?

Xander: Beer.

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I heard that Tito is writing a comic about the new relationship....

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posted January 07, 2002 17:39            
This is from Sweetie at fan forum:

"The Spike/Tara interaction in ep 14 is great. She basically teases Spike. For example, she catches him trying to move Buffy's hand to his crotch and he says he has a "muscle cramp". Tara's like, "In your pants?" Later on, he starts to tease Buffy about something and Tara asks him about his "muscle cramp". Then she tells him to put ice on it. "

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posted January 07, 2002 17:39             This is from Sweetie at fan forum:

"The Spike/Tara interaction in ep 14 is great. She basically teases Spike. For example, she catches him trying to move Buffy's hand to his crotch and he says he has a "muscle cramp". Tara's like, "In your pants?" Later on, he starts to tease Buffy about something and Tara asks him about his "muscle cramp". Then she tells him to put ice on it. "IP: LoggedReddygirlCool Monster Fighter


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posted January 07, 2002 17:41               


Okay, Sweetie just posted some new spoilers at fanforum. And yes they include the Tara dies rumor but....

The reason I'm alerting you is there is some really cute Tara/Spike interaction in epi 14 so it's worth looking at for this.

I've lived for the day that Tito was recognised with a thread in his honor; I choked up when I saw it.

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posted January 07, 2002 17:41                Okay, Sweetie just posted some new spoilers at fanforum. And yes they include the Tara dies rumor but....

The reason I'm alerting you is there is some really cute Tara/Spike interaction in epi 14 so it's worth looking at for this.

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posted January 07, 2002 17:44               


quote:
Originally posted by Blixxt:
some reports have been coming out that it might not be "death" death

As if this topic could get any more vague...

Edited to ask: Do these latest Sweetie spoilers have any details to go with the Tara death rumor, or is it just the same old thing again?

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posted January 07, 2002 17:44               
quote:
Originally posted by Blixxt:
some reports have been coming out that it might not be "death" death

As if this topic could get any more vague...

Edited to ask: Do these latest Sweetie spoilers have any details to go with the Tara death rumor, or is it just the same old thing again?

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posted January 07, 2002 17:55               


No details re The Subject In Question

But the Spike/Tara stuff is obviously from a script and very cute


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posted January 07, 2002 17:55                No details re The Subject In Question

But the Spike/Tara stuff is obviously from a script and very cute


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quote:
Tito: Every time I...even when I'm at my worst, you always make me feel special. How do you that?

Xander: Beer.


Ok, that's the second time today something from the Net made me laugh so loud it earned me a weird look from my boyfriend! Apparently then, I've been missing out on the new BTVS 'true love'.I am now a converted Xander/Tito shipper.


And I really hope the spoilers about Tara teasing Spike about him and Buffy are true.
What's not to love about this spoiler? Sarcastic, saucy Tara, and two of my favorite charaters actually interacting!

I think S6 is turning into my favorite BTVS season!And I suspect UPN has something to do with it.It almost makes me forgive them for throwing the abomination known as wrestling on the world!

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posted January 07, 2002 17:56               
quote:
Tito: Every time I...even when I'm at my worst, you always make me feel special. How do you that?

Xander: Beer.


Ok, that's the second time today something from the Net made me laugh so loud it earned me a weird look from my boyfriend! Apparently then, I've been missing out on the new BTVS 'true love'.I am now a converted Xander/Tito shipper.


And I really hope the spoilers about Tara teasing Spike about him and Buffy are true.
What's not to love about this spoiler? Sarcastic, saucy Tara, and two of my favorite charaters actually interacting!

I think S6 is turning into my favorite BTVS season!And I suspect UPN has something to do with it.It almost makes me forgive them for throwing the abomination known as wrestling on the world!

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posted January 07, 2002 17:59               


* sigh *

I'm getting to the point where I hope someone dies just so we can get it over with and all these rumor mongers will shut up. I'd hate to think we're going to be fending off Tara death rumors all the way to Memorial Day...

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posted January 07, 2002 17:59                * sigh *

I'm getting to the point where I hope someone dies just so we can get it over with and all these rumor mongers will shut up. I'd hate to think we're going to be fending off Tara death rumors all the way to Memorial Day...

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posted January 07, 2002 18:14               


more wanda . and before we even start it again, I have already read all the wanda-bashing any of us need to hear... yes, yes, I know all her faults... but it's still possible spoiler material for us shameless spoiler ho's. plus you get to read about how Joss is none to happy with her:
[First she admits that the Giles kills Spike spoiler was shamelessly false (part of game) and that James Marsters is signed through Season 7]:

"cont.. out such a big spoiler." So true, Leslie! And since I'm STILL on thin ice after breaking the news that Marc Blucas was leaving last season, my lips are unfortunately SEALED about an upcoming cast change. Grrrr, argh, indeed."

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posted January 07, 2002 18:51               
quote:
Originally posted by Reddygirl:
Okay, Sweetie just posted some new spoilers at fanforum. And yes they include the Tara dies rumor but....

The reason I'm alerting you is there is some really cute Tara/Spike interaction in epi 14 so it's worth looking at for this.


Ok, the S/T interaction sounds great, but I am getting so sick of the Tara dies rumors. I really wish the staff would confirm or deny (although Marti's comments seemed like a pretty good denial)

Ya know what frustrates me most is that it's so hard to prove a negative. I imagine we'll be facing these rumors all season (assuming Tara does survive Feb. sweeps) When it doesn't happen, we'll be told it was pushed back or that plans must have changed. Sigh.

Sorry to rant, I'm feeling kinda cranky

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posted January 07, 2002 19:11               
Oh my frickin' god! That rumor just keeps on a comin'! Since I wasn't around here when Marc Blucas left, can someone please tell me at what point you had confirmed spoilers he was leaving? I'm only asking because to me it was clear for a long, long time in the storyline that he was on his way out and I wondered how the storyline and spoiler timelines compare.

Because I see NOTHING to indicate Tara is a goner. Just the opposite. On the one hand, we have this one unconfirmed rumor that won't die and, on the other hand, we've got a storyline that seems to be pulling Tara back into the Scoobs, foreshadowing up the wazoo that she and Willow are true loves that will "find each other" again, quotes from Joss saying he loves Amber and will never get rid of her, quotes from Marti saying Tara's demise is being "blown out of proportion," Amber being held up as the BtVS promotional "ambassador" of late, and no indication that Amber is shopping herself for other parts.

I'm SOOOO sick of this.

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posted January 07, 2002 19:26            
I have it on "good authority" that "Tito the Terrible" as he is known throughout the demonic universe is going to turn Xander to the dark side and into a Demon.
Xander will be the Wood Demon. He is the one that makes all those awful noises you hear at night when you think your house is settling.

Can someone please post Sweetie's new rumours?
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posted January 07, 2002 19:27               
LOL. Thanks, Paula

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posted January 07, 2002 19:28               
*snickers* Wood Demon *snicker* *refrains from jokes about Anya's predilections* *snickers again* *has yet to achieve a 5 year old's level of maturity* *snickers again*

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posted January 07, 2002 18:14                more wanda . and before we even start it again, I have already read all the wanda-bashing any of us need to hear... yes, yes, I know all her faults... but it's still possible spoiler material for us shameless spoiler ho's. plus you get to read about how Joss is none to happy with her:
[First she admits that the Giles kills Spike spoiler was shamelessly false (part of game) and that James Marsters is signed through Season 7]:

"cont.. out such a big spoiler." So true, Leslie! And since I'm STILL on thin ice after breaking the news that Marc Blucas was leaving last season, my lips are unfortunately SEALED about an upcoming cast change. Grrrr, argh, indeed."

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posted January 07, 2002 18:51               
quote:
Originally posted by Reddygirl:
Okay, Sweetie just posted some new spoilers at fanforum. And yes they include the Tara dies rumor but....

The reason I'm alerting you is there is some really cute Tara/Spike interaction in epi 14 so it's worth looking at for this.


Ok, the S/T interaction sounds great, but I am getting so sick of the Tara dies rumors. I really wish the staff would confirm or deny (although Marti's comments seemed like a pretty good denial)

Ya know what frustrates me most is that it's so hard to prove a negative. I imagine we'll be facing these rumors all season (assuming Tara does survive Feb. sweeps) When it doesn't happen, we'll be told it was pushed back or that plans must have changed. Sigh.

Sorry to rant, I'm feeling kinda cranky

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posted January 07, 2002 19:11               
Oh my frickin' god! That rumor just keeps on a comin'! Since I wasn't around here when Marc Blucas left, can someone please tell me at what point you had confirmed spoilers he was leaving? I'm only asking because to me it was clear for a long, long time in the storyline that he was on his way out and I wondered how the storyline and spoiler timelines compare.

Because I see NOTHING to indicate Tara is a goner. Just the opposite. On the one hand, we have this one unconfirmed rumor that won't die and, on the other hand, we've got a storyline that seems to be pulling Tara back into the Scoobs, foreshadowing up the wazoo that she and Willow are true loves that will "find each other" again, quotes from Joss saying he loves Amber and will never get rid of her, quotes from Marti saying Tara's demise is being "blown out of proportion," Amber being held up as the BtVS promotional "ambassador" of late, and no indication that Amber is shopping herself for other parts.

I'm SOOOO sick of this.

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posted January 07, 2002 19:26            
I have it on "good authority" that "Tito the Terrible" as he is known throughout the demonic universe is going to turn Xander to the dark side and into a Demon.
Xander will be the Wood Demon. He is the one that makes all those awful noises you hear at night when you think your house is settling.

Can someone please post Sweetie's new rumours?
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posted January 07, 2002 19:27               
LOL. Thanks, Paula

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posted January 07, 2002 19:28               
*snickers* Wood Demon *snicker* *refrains from jokes about Anya's predilections* *snickers again* *has yet to achieve a 5 year old's level of maturity* *snickers again*

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posted January 07, 2002 18:51               
quote:
Originally posted by Reddygirl:
Okay, Sweetie just posted some new spoilers at fanforum. And yes they include the Tara dies rumor but....

The reason I'm alerting you is there is some really cute Tara/Spike interaction in epi 14 so it's worth looking at for this.


Ok, the S/T interaction sounds great, but I am getting so sick of the Tara dies rumors. I really wish the staff would confirm or deny (although Marti's comments seemed like a pretty good denial)

Ya know what frustrates me most is that it's so hard to prove a negative. I imagine we'll be facing these rumors all season (assuming Tara does survive Feb. sweeps) When it doesn't happen, we'll be told it was pushed back or that plans must have changed. Sigh.

Sorry to rant, I'm feeling kinda cranky

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posted January 07, 2002 18:51               
quote:
Originally posted by Reddygirl:
Okay, Sweetie just posted some new spoilers at fanforum. And yes they include the Tara dies rumor but....

The reason I'm alerting you is there is some really cute Tara/Spike interaction in epi 14 so it's worth looking at for this.


Ok, the S/T interaction sounds great, but I am getting so sick of the Tara dies rumors. I really wish the staff would confirm or deny (although Marti's comments seemed like a pretty good denial)

Ya know what frustrates me most is that it's so hard to prove a negative. I imagine we'll be facing these rumors all season (assuming Tara does survive Feb. sweeps) When it doesn't happen, we'll be told it was pushed back or that plans must have changed. Sigh.

Sorry to rant, I'm feeling kinda cranky

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posted January 07, 2002 19:11               


Oh my frickin' god! That rumor just keeps on a comin'! Since I wasn't around here when Marc Blucas left, can someone please tell me at what point you had confirmed spoilers he was leaving? I'm only asking because to me it was clear for a long, long time in the storyline that he was on his way out and I wondered how the storyline and spoiler timelines compare.

Because I see NOTHING to indicate Tara is a goner. Just the opposite. On the one hand, we have this one unconfirmed rumor that won't die and, on the other hand, we've got a storyline that seems to be pulling Tara back into the Scoobs, foreshadowing up the wazoo that she and Willow are true loves that will "find each other" again, quotes from Joss saying he loves Amber and will never get rid of her, quotes from Marti saying Tara's demise is being "blown out of proportion," Amber being held up as the BtVS promotional "ambassador" of late, and no indication that Amber is shopping herself for other parts.

I'm SOOOO sick of this.

Amy

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posted January 07, 2002 19:11                Oh my frickin' god! That rumor just keeps on a comin'! Since I wasn't around here when Marc Blucas left, can someone please tell me at what point you had confirmed spoilers he was leaving? I'm only asking because to me it was clear for a long, long time in the storyline that he was on his way out and I wondered how the storyline and spoiler timelines compare.

Because I see NOTHING to indicate Tara is a goner. Just the opposite. On the one hand, we have this one unconfirmed rumor that won't die and, on the other hand, we've got a storyline that seems to be pulling Tara back into the Scoobs, foreshadowing up the wazoo that she and Willow are true loves that will "find each other" again, quotes from Joss saying he loves Amber and will never get rid of her, quotes from Marti saying Tara's demise is being "blown out of proportion," Amber being held up as the BtVS promotional "ambassador" of late, and no indication that Amber is shopping herself for other parts.

I'm SOOOO sick of this.

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posted January 07, 2002 19:26            


I have it on "good authority" that "Tito the Terrible" as he is known throughout the demonic universe is going to turn Xander to the dark side and into a Demon.
Xander will be the Wood Demon. He is the one that makes all those awful noises you hear at night when you think your house is settling.

Can someone please post Sweetie's new rumours?
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posted January 07, 2002 19:26             I have it on "good authority" that "Tito the Terrible" as he is known throughout the demonic universe is going to turn Xander to the dark side and into a Demon.
Xander will be the Wood Demon. He is the one that makes all those awful noises you hear at night when you think your house is settling.

Can someone please post Sweetie's new rumours?
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posted January 07, 2002 19:27               


LOL. Thanks, Paula

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General Season 6 SPOILERS - Part 4: Save Tito!

Postby lion + dove » Mon Jan 07, 2002 1:44 pm

thanks BBOvenGuy... I read all the pro-tito/anti-tito, x/t shipping, fan fic, etc. in the other spoiler thread. but twas late and could never get a concrete image of the guy (i watched flooded in a hospital waiting room- never conducive to seeing or catching an entire episode- i missed the actual "flooded" part of flooded)...
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General Season 6 SPOILERS - Part 4: Save Tito!

Postby shannon720 » Mon Jan 07, 2002 1:52 pm

yes, thanks for the explanation, cause i was thinking tito jackson, and it was making no sense.
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General Season 6 SPOILERS - Part 4: Save Tito!

Postby Blixxt » Mon Jan 07, 2002 2:31 pm

This was posted today at
Dark Horizons
:

Buffy (TV): 'SWERJ' talks about the mid-late section of the sixth season which'll air in coming months, MAJOR spoilers ahead:
"Rumors have been abounding that in Feburary sweeps, a major character will be killed off on "Buffy" but no word on who. However, some reports have been coming out that it might not be "death" death------as in, the character may end up becoming a vampire or demon. This might point towards Anya (Emma Caufield) as there have been rumors that she would regain her demonic powers just before her wedding to Xander. It's close to the vest as always with Wheldon and this wouldn't be the first time false rumors have been spread to throw fans off".

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General Season 6 SPOILERS - Part 4: Save Tito!

Postby Reddygirl » Mon Jan 07, 2002 2:37 pm

Wheldon? he he!
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General Season 6 SPOILERS - Part 4: Save Tito!

Postby tommo » Mon Jan 07, 2002 2:45 pm

It's close to the vest as always with Wheldon

Um, isn't the phrase "Close to the chest?"

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General Season 6 SPOILERS - Part 4: Save Tito!

Postby Blixxt » Mon Jan 07, 2002 2:59 pm

Well, in spite of the spelling errors this is definitely a real report, because SWERJ is sort of the Herc there at Dark Horizons. These spelling errors and such are his, it's not the first time he's forgotten to use a spell checker. In any case this post is just his speculation, but it's interesting that he mentions reports that the death may not be a real death.

Xander/Tito forever!

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General Season 6 SPOILERS - Part 4: Save Tito!

Postby Shewolf » Mon Jan 07, 2002 3:06 pm

Xander/Tito? Did I miss something?

I only stay away from the Net for a week, and a whole new ship is born.

Well, when it comes to u/c male slash couples, I say S/X forever!

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General Season 6 SPOILERS - Part 4: Save Tito!

Postby Blixxt » Mon Jan 07, 2002 3:13 pm

You don't know about Xander/Tito? The floating crescent wrench scene? Titohand? 'Under Your Sink' sung by Xander so lovingly? It's the second most romantic relationship on Buffy today!

Tito: Every time I...even when I'm at my worst, you always make me feel special. How do you that?

Xander: Beer.

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General Season 6 SPOILERS - Part 4: Save Tito!

Postby Phoenix » Mon Jan 07, 2002 3:19 pm

I heard that Tito is writing a comic about the new relationship....
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General Season 6 SPOILERS - Part 4: Save Tito!

Postby Kris » Mon Jan 07, 2002 3:39 pm

This is from Sweetie at fan forum:

"The Spike/Tara interaction in ep 14 is great. She basically teases Spike. For example, she catches him trying to move Buffy's hand to his crotch and he says he has a "muscle cramp". Tara's like, "In your pants?" Later on, he starts to tease Buffy about something and Tara asks him about his "muscle cramp". Then she tells him to put ice on it. "

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General Season 6 SPOILERS - Part 4: Save Tito!

Postby Reddygirl » Mon Jan 07, 2002 3:41 pm

Okay, Sweetie just posted some new spoilers at fanforum. And yes they include the Tara dies rumor but....

The reason I'm alerting you is there is some really cute Tara/Spike interaction in epi 14 so it's worth looking at for this.

I've lived for the day that Tito was recognised with a thread in his honor; I choked up when I saw it.

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General Season 6 SPOILERS - Part 4: Save Tito!

Postby BBOvenGuy » Mon Jan 07, 2002 3:44 pm

quote:
Originally posted by Blixxt:
some reports have been coming out that it might not be "death" death

As if this topic could get any more vague...

Edited to ask: Do these latest Sweetie spoilers have any details to go with the Tara death rumor, or is it just the same old thing again?

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General Season 6 SPOILERS - Part 4: Save Tito!

Postby Reddygirl » Mon Jan 07, 2002 3:55 pm

No details re The Subject In Question

But the Spike/Tara stuff is obviously from a script and very cute


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General Season 6 SPOILERS - Part 4: Save Tito!

Postby Shewolf » Mon Jan 07, 2002 3:56 pm

quote:
Tito: Every time I...even when I'm at my worst, you always make me feel special. How do you that?

Xander: Beer.


Ok, that's the second time today something from the Net made me laugh so loud it earned me a weird look from my boyfriend! Apparently then, I've been missing out on the new BTVS 'true love'.I am now a converted Xander/Tito shipper.


And I really hope the spoilers about Tara teasing Spike about him and Buffy are true.
What's not to love about this spoiler? Sarcastic, saucy Tara, and two of my favorite charaters actually interacting!

I think S6 is turning into my favorite BTVS season!And I suspect UPN has something to do with it.It almost makes me forgive them for throwing the abomination known as wrestling on the world!

[This message has been edited by Shewolf (edited January 07, 2002).]quote:

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General Season 6 SPOILERS - Part 4: Save Tito!

Postby BBOvenGuy » Mon Jan 07, 2002 3:59 pm

* sigh *

I'm getting to the point where I hope someone dies just so we can get it over with and all these rumor mongers will shut up. I'd hate to think we're going to be fending off Tara death rumors all the way to Memorial Day...

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General Season 6 SPOILERS - Part 4: Save Tito!

Postby lion + dove » Mon Jan 07, 2002 4:14 pm

more wanda . and before we even start it again, I have already read all the wanda-bashing any of us need to hear... yes, yes, I know all her faults... but it's still possible spoiler material for us shameless spoiler ho's. plus you get to read about how Joss is none to happy with her:
[First she admits that the Giles kills Spike spoiler was shamelessly false (part of game) and that James Marsters is signed through Season 7]:

"cont.. out such a big spoiler." So true, Leslie! And since I'm STILL on thin ice after breaking the news that Marc Blucas was leaving last season, my lips are unfortunately SEALED about an upcoming cast change. Grrrr, argh, indeed."

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posted January 07, 2002 18:51               
quote:
Originally posted by Reddygirl:
Okay, Sweetie just posted some new spoilers at fanforum. And yes they include the Tara dies rumor but....

The reason I'm alerting you is there is some really cute Tara/Spike interaction in epi 14 so it's worth looking at for this.


Ok, the S/T interaction sounds great, but I am getting so sick of the Tara dies rumors. I really wish the staff would confirm or deny (although Marti's comments seemed like a pretty good denial)

Ya know what frustrates me most is that it's so hard to prove a negative. I imagine we'll be facing these rumors all season (assuming Tara does survive Feb. sweeps) When it doesn't happen, we'll be told it was pushed back or that plans must have changed. Sigh.

Sorry to rant, I'm feeling kinda cranky

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posted January 07, 2002 19:11               
Oh my frickin' god! That rumor just keeps on a comin'! Since I wasn't around here when Marc Blucas left, can someone please tell me at what point you had confirmed spoilers he was leaving? I'm only asking because to me it was clear for a long, long time in the storyline that he was on his way out and I wondered how the storyline and spoiler timelines compare.

Because I see NOTHING to indicate Tara is a goner. Just the opposite. On the one hand, we have this one unconfirmed rumor that won't die and, on the other hand, we've got a storyline that seems to be pulling Tara back into the Scoobs, foreshadowing up the wazoo that she and Willow are true loves that will "find each other" again, quotes from Joss saying he loves Amber and will never get rid of her, quotes from Marti saying Tara's demise is being "blown out of proportion," Amber being held up as the BtVS promotional "ambassador" of late, and no indication that Amber is shopping herself for other parts.

I'm SOOOO sick of this.

Amy

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posted January 07, 2002 19:26            
I have it on "good authority" that "Tito the Terrible" as he is known throughout the demonic universe is going to turn Xander to the dark side and into a Demon.
Xander will be the Wood Demon. He is the one that makes all those awful noises you hear at night when you think your house is settling.

Can someone please post Sweetie's new rumours?
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posted January 07, 2002 19:27               
LOL. Thanks, Paula

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posted January 07, 2002 19:28               
*snickers* Wood Demon *snicker* *refrains from jokes about Anya's predilections* *snickers again* *has yet to achieve a 5 year old's level of maturity* *snickers again*

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posted January 07, 2002 18:51               
quote:
Originally posted by Reddygirl:
Okay, Sweetie just posted some new spoilers at fanforum. And yes they include the Tara dies rumor but....

The reason I'm alerting you is there is some really cute Tara/Spike interaction in epi 14 so it's worth looking at for this.


Ok, the S/T interaction sounds great, but I am getting so sick of the Tara dies rumors. I really wish the staff would confirm or deny (although Marti's comments seemed like a pretty good denial)

Ya know what frustrates me most is that it's so hard to prove a negative. I imagine we'll be facing these rumors all season (assuming Tara does survive Feb. sweeps) When it doesn't happen, we'll be told it was pushed back or that plans must have changed. Sigh.

Sorry to rant, I'm feeling kinda cranky

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posted January 07, 2002 18:51               
quote:
Originally posted by Reddygirl:
Okay, Sweetie just posted some new spoilers at fanforum. And yes they include the Tara dies rumor but....

The reason I'm alerting you is there is some really cute Tara/Spike interaction in epi 14 so it's worth looking at for this.


Ok, the S/T interaction sounds great, but I am getting so sick of the Tara dies rumors. I really wish the staff would confirm or deny (although Marti's comments seemed like a pretty good denial)

Ya know what frustrates me most is that it's so hard to prove a negative. I imagine we'll be facing these rumors all season (assuming Tara does survive Feb. sweeps) When it doesn't happen, we'll be told it was pushed back or that plans must have changed. Sigh.

Sorry to rant, I'm feeling kinda cranky

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posted January 07, 2002 19:11               


Oh my frickin' god! That rumor just keeps on a comin'! Since I wasn't around here when Marc Blucas left, can someone please tell me at what point you had confirmed spoilers he was leaving? I'm only asking because to me it was clear for a long, long time in the storyline that he was on his way out and I wondered how the storyline and spoiler timelines compare.

Because I see NOTHING to indicate Tara is a goner. Just the opposite. On the one hand, we have this one unconfirmed rumor that won't die and, on the other hand, we've got a storyline that seems to be pulling Tara back into the Scoobs, foreshadowing up the wazoo that she and Willow are true loves that will "find each other" again, quotes from Joss saying he loves Amber and will never get rid of her, quotes from Marti saying Tara's demise is being "blown out of proportion," Amber being held up as the BtVS promotional "ambassador" of late, and no indication that Amber is shopping herself for other parts.

I'm SOOOO sick of this.

Amy

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posted January 07, 2002 19:11                Oh my frickin' god! That rumor just keeps on a comin'! Since I wasn't around here when Marc Blucas left, can someone please tell me at what point you had confirmed spoilers he was leaving? I'm only asking because to me it was clear for a long, long time in the storyline that he was on his way out and I wondered how the storyline and spoiler timelines compare.

Because I see NOTHING to indicate Tara is a goner. Just the opposite. On the one hand, we have this one unconfirmed rumor that won't die and, on the other hand, we've got a storyline that seems to be pulling Tara back into the Scoobs, foreshadowing up the wazoo that she and Willow are true loves that will "find each other" again, quotes from Joss saying he loves Amber and will never get rid of her, quotes from Marti saying Tara's demise is being "blown out of proportion," Amber being held up as the BtVS promotional "ambassador" of late, and no indication that Amber is shopping herself for other parts.

I'm SOOOO sick of this.

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posted January 07, 2002 19:26            


I have it on "good authority" that "Tito the Terrible" as he is known throughout the demonic universe is going to turn Xander to the dark side and into a Demon.
Xander will be the Wood Demon. He is the one that makes all those awful noises you hear at night when you think your house is settling.

Can someone please post Sweetie's new rumours?
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Paula
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Keeper of my own insanity
"I love being a girl, having a girl.." ~as sung by Amber Benson in the UK

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posted January 07, 2002 19:26             I have it on "good authority" that "Tito the Terrible" as he is known throughout the demonic universe is going to turn Xander to the dark side and into a Demon.
Xander will be the Wood Demon. He is the one that makes all those awful noises you hear at night when you think your house is settling.

Can someone please post Sweetie's new rumours?
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Paula
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Keeper of my own insanity
"I love being a girl, having a girl.." ~as sung by Amber Benson in the UK

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posted January 07, 2002 19:27               


LOL. Thanks, Paula

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posted January 07, 2002 19:28               
*snickers* Wood Demon *snicker* *refrains from jokes about Anya's predilections* *snickers again* *has yet to achieve a 5 year old's level of maturity* *snickers again*

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posted January 07, 2002 19:28                *snickers* Wood Demon *snicker* *refrains from jokes about Anya's predilections* *snickers again* *has yet to achieve a 5 year old's level of maturity* *snickers again*
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General Season 6 SPOILERS - Part 4: Save Tito!

Postby Wiccagrrl » Mon Jan 07, 2002 4:51 pm

quote:
Originally posted by Reddygirl:
Okay, Sweetie just posted some new spoilers at fanforum. And yes they include the Tara dies rumor but....

The reason I'm alerting you is there is some really cute Tara/Spike interaction in epi 14 so it's worth looking at for this.


Ok, the S/T interaction sounds great, but I am getting so sick of the Tara dies rumors. I really wish the staff would confirm or deny (although Marti's comments seemed like a pretty good denial)

Ya know what frustrates me most is that it's so hard to prove a negative. I imagine we'll be facing these rumors all season (assuming Tara does survive Feb. sweeps) When it doesn't happen, we'll be told it was pushed back or that plans must have changed. Sigh.

Sorry to rant, I'm feeling kinda cranky

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General Season 6 SPOILERS - Part 4: Save Tito!

Postby Willowlicious » Mon Jan 07, 2002 5:11 pm

Oh my frickin' god! That rumor just keeps on a comin'! Since I wasn't around here when Marc Blucas left, can someone please tell me at what point you had confirmed spoilers he was leaving? I'm only asking because to me it was clear for a long, long time in the storyline that he was on his way out and I wondered how the storyline and spoiler timelines compare.

Because I see NOTHING to indicate Tara is a goner. Just the opposite. On the one hand, we have this one unconfirmed rumor that won't die and, on the other hand, we've got a storyline that seems to be pulling Tara back into the Scoobs, foreshadowing up the wazoo that she and Willow are true loves that will "find each other" again, quotes from Joss saying he loves Amber and will never get rid of her, quotes from Marti saying Tara's demise is being "blown out of proportion," Amber being held up as the BtVS promotional "ambassador" of late, and no indication that Amber is shopping herself for other parts.

I'm SOOOO sick of this.

Amy

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General Season 6 SPOILERS - Part 4: Save Tito!

Postby Kiwiccan » Mon Jan 07, 2002 5:26 pm

I have it on "good authority" that "Tito the Terrible" as he is known throughout the demonic universe is going to turn Xander to the dark side and into a Demon.
Xander will be the Wood Demon. He is the one that makes all those awful noises you hear at night when you think your house is settling.

Can someone please post Sweetie's new rumours?
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Paula
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Keeper of my own insanity
"I love being a girl, having a girl.." ~as sung by Amber Benson in the UK

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General Season 6 SPOILERS - Part 4: Save Tito!

Postby Wiccagrrl » Mon Jan 07, 2002 5:27 pm

LOL. Thanks, Paula
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General Season 6 SPOILERS - Part 4: Save Tito!

Postby lion + dove » Mon Jan 07, 2002 5:28 pm

*snickers* Wood Demon *snicker* *refrains from jokes about Anya's predilections* *snickers again* *has yet to achieve a 5 year old's level of maturity* *snickers again*
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General Season 6 SPOILERS - Part 4: Save Tito!

Postby AutumnT » Mon Jan 07, 2002 5:32 pm

quote:
Originally posted by Kiwiccan:

Xander will be the Wood Demon. He is the one that makes all those awful noises you hear at night when you think your house is settling.

I knew he and Tito were playing shiver me timbers...quote:

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General Season 6 SPOILERS - Part 4: Save Tito!

Postby Kiwiccan » Mon Jan 07, 2002 5:45 pm

AutumnT, I think a limerick is in order in honour of our new hot couple.

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General Season 6 SPOILERS - Part 4: Save Tito!

Postby Shewolf » Mon Jan 07, 2002 5:56 pm

Ok,I've been dying to ask this for ages, and pardon my ignorance, but what is shiver-me-timbers??
It really bugs me when I don't get a joke on Buffy (which doesn't happen that often anymore, thankfully, though people are starting to have problems understanding me!).Could someone please enlighten me?
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General Season 6 SPOILERS - Part 4: Save Tito!

Postby AutumnT » Mon Jan 07, 2002 5:56 pm

There was a young stud name of Xander
Over Tito his hands would meander
The depths they would plumb
made both of them come
And those things they would do with a sander!
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General Season 6 SPOILERS - Part 4: Save Tito!

Postby BBOvenGuy » Mon Jan 07, 2002 5:59 pm

quote:
Originally posted by Willowlicious:
Since I wasn't around here when Marc Blucas left, can someone please tell me at what point you had confirmed spoilers he was leaving?

Wanda broke the news before Season 5 even started. There was a big ruckus for a while, then it kind of died down until we started to get reports of his new movie deals just before "Into the Woods" aired.

Wanda's latest comment is certainly worded in an interesting way:

quote:
my lips are unfortunately SEALED about an upcoming cast change. Grrrr, argh, indeed.

"Cast change" doesn't necessarily mean someone's being written out. It could, just as an example, mean that someone like Amber who doesn't have "regular" status is being bumped up into the credits.

Furthermore, if Tara is indeed being written out of the series, it would be most likely to happen at the end of her 16th episode (unless they want to pay her for shows she won't appear in). If that were to happen, it's really not a "cast change," is it? Amber would have been signed for 16 and would have done 16. End of contract. What was planned all along would have come to pass.

So once again the rumors get more and more vague, allowing more and more possible outcomes to be "predicted." And the vagueness allows people to perpetuate the Tara death rumor, despite the fact that there's still no evidence for it.

Grr Argh indeed...

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