by The Rose » Mon Jun 25, 2001 1:04 pm
Willow does not actually SAY it until "The Body." Tara does not say it back, but the way she looks at Willow and takes her hands says it all. Willow says it again in "Tough Love," but Tara can not say it back due to her
circumstances. Yet again, Tara's eyes tell the truth.
Do any of you think she is afraid to say it?
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by tommo » Mon Jun 25, 2001 1:11 pm
But Tara does other things that show her love, her fear in 'Family' for instance, she lied to protect herself so that she could stay with Willow. In fact, the whole dance scene in that ep. was pretty much Tara saying she loves Willow.
Can't think of any other instances right now.
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by Scarecrow » Mon Jun 25, 2001 1:14 pm
Personaly I think she doesn't have a problem; the writers have never needed to put it into word sas it was so obvious. i expect they've siad it to each other off screen...
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by Cici » Mon Jun 25, 2001 1:24 pm
She doesn´t say I LOVE YOU to Willow but i think she shows Willow her Love in another ways!
Maybe it´s Tara´s Shyness <-- 
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We all know that Tara loves Willow!!!! She loves her sooooo much! ....
Sometimes people doesn´t say.... they couldn´t! But they feel!!!
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With the kiss, it was as though it had happened before; therefore was natural and without the whole first kiss label on it.
I'd like to see Tara say something along the lines of "Honey, you know I love you but..." or something like that.
I'm convinced they've already said it. That Tara's already said it. So no need for big drama.
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i couldnt think of a time when tara has used willows name.
I think you'll notice, if you watch Tough Love again, that Willow's name was the only one that Tara said. In all the confusion she felt, the one person she recognised was Willow. Their love appears in so many ways; it's clear to me that they have a totally romantic relationship in the classic sense (as well as in a real sense), where proclamations and 'I love you's' aren't necessary, because it shines out of them all of the time.
"Tara had never felt as good about herself in her life. Willow gave her that gift. And another gift. Tara couldn't quite bring herself to call it love. Not yet. But there was time." ~ Unseen: The Burning
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Tara has said Willow's name many times. In fact, the first time I recall is The in Team when Willow comes back to Tara apologizing for ditching her and going out to hang with the scoobies. Tara opens the door and says, "willow."
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Oh, what I'd do to have that big grin and sexy voice saying my name on the other side of a door when I knock . . .
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umm, *i am you know... yours*... isn't that an i love you is a jossonian way?
The "I am you know...yours" line is what I had to think of too when reading the beginning of this thread. Tara doesn´t have to say "I love you" to Willow because she has said it all with this one line when they weren´t even a couple yet. I think that we from then on were all completely convinced that Tara actually loves Willow. By doing this, Tara has shown a lot of courage.
Nevertheless, I think she has said it to Willow many times. Maybe the writers felt the need to show Willow saying it because they wanted to convince all the viewers who still doubted her feelings for Tara. What strikes me though is that although Willow has said it in "The Body", the fight in "Tough Love" shows that Tara still has doubts.
Oh, I almost forgot: *SIGH*!!!
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i do think i know why they haven't said it on screen though. and it's super simple, really (doesn't rule out me being wrong though) and someone else may have said this... i may not have been reading the other replies closely enough.
but joss held out on the kiss for so long because he didn't want it to be seen as a plot device. he wanted it to be natural, something that *had* to happen, rather than just for the ratings. and he succeeded.
so i think that willow and tara haven't had the whole "i love u!" "i love you too!" big scene because it hasn't been necessary, and joss doesn't want people to think that he's just cashing in on the lesbian love thing.
maybe i'm wrong... but i think that this hugely important expression of their love for each other will be handled as beautifully as the kiss was - as and when joss thinks it's time.
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Their relationship is just so beautiful, I love them so much. Yes I would love to hear Tara whisper those words to Willow on screen. I am however content that off screen Tara has said to Willow that she loves her.
I know I'm just a old romantic, but I'm happy. Those two are just so perfect together.
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With the kiss, it was as though it had happened before; therefore was natural and without the whole first kiss label on it.
I'd like to see Tara say something along the lines of "Honey, you know I love you but..." or something like that.
I'm convinced they've already said it. That Tara's already said it. So no need for big drama.
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Originally posted by Glory-p3-mrs:
i couldnt think of a time when tara has used willows name.
I think you'll notice, if you watch Tough Love again, that Willow's name was the only one that Tara said. In all the confusion she felt, the one person she recognised was Willow. Their love appears in so many ways; it's clear to me that they have a totally romantic relationship in the classic sense (as well as in a real sense), where proclamations and 'I love you's' aren't necessary, because it shines out of them all of the time.
"Tara had never felt as good about herself in her life. Willow gave her that gift. And another gift. Tara couldn't quite bring herself to call it love. Not yet. But there was time." ~ Unseen: The Burning
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Tara has said Willow's name many times. In fact, the first time I recall is The in Team when Willow comes back to Tara apologizing for ditching her and going out to hang with the scoobies. Tara opens the door and says, "willow."
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Okay. Still having so much trouble with that acronym, but . . .
Oh, what I'd do to have that big grin and sexy voice saying my name on the other side of a door when I knock . . .
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Originally posted by Rane:
umm, *i am you know... yours*... isn't that an i love you is a jossonian way?
The "I am you know...yours" line is what I had to think of too when reading the beginning of this thread. Tara doesn´t have to say "I love you" to Willow because she has said it all with this one line when they weren´t even a couple yet. I think that we from then on were all completely convinced that Tara actually loves Willow. By doing this, Tara has shown a lot of courage.
Nevertheless, I think she has said it to Willow many times. Maybe the writers felt the need to show Willow saying it because they wanted to convince all the viewers who still doubted her feelings for Tara. What strikes me though is that although Willow has said it in "The Body", the fight in "Tough Love" shows that Tara still has doubts.
Oh, I almost forgot: *SIGH*!!!
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i do think i know why they haven't said it on screen though. and it's super simple, really (doesn't rule out me being wrong though) and someone else may have said this... i may not have been reading the other replies closely enough.
but joss held out on the kiss for so long because he didn't want it to be seen as a plot device. he wanted it to be natural, something that *had* to happen, rather than just for the ratings. and he succeeded.
so i think that willow and tara haven't had the whole "i love u!" "i love you too!" big scene because it hasn't been necessary, and joss doesn't want people to think that he's just cashing in on the lesbian love thing.
maybe i'm wrong... but i think that this hugely important expression of their love for each other will be handled as beautifully as the kiss was - as and when joss thinks it's time.
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Their relationship is just so beautiful, I love them so much. Yes I would love to hear Tara whisper those words to Willow on screen. I am however content that off screen Tara has said to Willow that she loves her.
I know I'm just a old romantic, but I'm happy. Those two are just so perfect together.
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With the kiss, it was as though it had happened before; therefore was natural and without the whole first kiss label on it.
I'd like to see Tara say something along the lines of "Honey, you know I love you but..." or something like that.
I'm convinced they've already said it. That Tara's already said it. So no need for big drama.
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Originally posted by Glory-p3-mrs:
i couldnt think of a time when tara has used willows name.
I think you'll notice, if you watch Tough Love again, that Willow's name was the only one that Tara said. In all the confusion she felt, the one person she recognised was Willow. Their love appears in so many ways; it's clear to me that they have a totally romantic relationship in the classic sense (as well as in a real sense), where proclamations and 'I love you's' aren't necessary, because it shines out of them all of the time.
"Tara had never felt as good about herself in her life. Willow gave her that gift. And another gift. Tara couldn't quite bring herself to call it love. Not yet. But there was time." ~ Unseen: The Burning
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Tara has said Willow's name many times. In fact, the first time I recall is The in Team when Willow comes back to Tara apologizing for ditching her and going out to hang with the scoobies. Tara opens the door and says, "willow."
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Okay. Still having so much trouble with that acronym, but . . .
Oh, what I'd do to have that big grin and sexy voice saying my name on the other side of a door when I knock . . .
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Originally posted by Rane:
umm, *i am you know... yours*... isn't that an i love you is a jossonian way?
The "I am you know...yours" line is what I had to think of too when reading the beginning of this thread. Tara doesn´t have to say "I love you" to Willow because she has said it all with this one line when they weren´t even a couple yet. I think that we from then on were all completely convinced that Tara actually loves Willow. By doing this, Tara has shown a lot of courage.
Nevertheless, I think she has said it to Willow many times. Maybe the writers felt the need to show Willow saying it because they wanted to convince all the viewers who still doubted her feelings for Tara. What strikes me though is that although Willow has said it in "The Body", the fight in "Tough Love" shows that Tara still has doubts.
Oh, I almost forgot: *SIGH*!!!
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i do think i know why they haven't said it on screen though. and it's super simple, really (doesn't rule out me being wrong though) and someone else may have said this... i may not have been reading the other replies closely enough.
but joss held out on the kiss for so long because he didn't want it to be seen as a plot device. he wanted it to be natural, something that *had* to happen, rather than just for the ratings. and he succeeded.
so i think that willow and tara haven't had the whole "i love u!" "i love you too!" big scene because it hasn't been necessary, and joss doesn't want people to think that he's just cashing in on the lesbian love thing.
maybe i'm wrong... but i think that this hugely important expression of their love for each other will be handled as beautifully as the kiss was - as and when joss thinks it's time.
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Their relationship is just so beautiful, I love them so much. Yes I would love to hear Tara whisper those words to Willow on screen. I am however content that off screen Tara has said to Willow that she loves her.
I know I'm just a old romantic, but I'm happy. Those two are just so perfect together.
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IP: LoggedminionDoll's eye crystal As for her not saying it on screen I suspect the writers are just being evil yet again, and saving it up for some really angsty moment before Tara actually says it out loud for we mere mortals to hear, gotta love Joss (not!)
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posted June 25, 2001 17:02 Tara has told Willow in private, I think that one is a given and lets face it you only have to see the way Tara looks at Willow to know that she adores her, and she does look at Willow, a lot!As for her not saying it on screen I suspect the writers are just being evil yet again, and saving it up for some really angsty moment before Tara actually says it out loud for we mere mortals to hear, gotta love Joss (not!)
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posted June 25, 2001 17:12 I have no doubt that Tara has told Willow she loves her a million times in private (same for Willow) but it is one of my wishes for the next season...that W/T tell each other "I love you", hopefully more than onceIP: LoggedGlory-p3-mrsBlessed Wannabe IP: Logged
posted June 25, 2001 17:32 hey, not to sound all negative, cuz i love em', but.... i'm not so sure tara has said it. i mean, i feel, (know), that she does, but i dont think she has actually said she loves will. i also think will knows it. however, i also thought there was something going on bec/ i couldnt think of a time when tara has used willows name. so i might not have any credit to my name on such topics.... ------------------
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posted June 25, 2001 17:40 I didn't think it might be an issue until the book "Unseen" when it mentioned that Tara wasn't ready to call it love yet (I'm assuming she means for herself). Of course, a lot of time has passed since then, but I did find it odd that we've only heard Willow say it. They are so deliberate on that show, that it made me wonder if there was a reason (Tara's insecurities). I have no doubt though that Tara loves Willow in her heart.IP: LoggedRaneTara Ass IP: Logged
posted June 25, 2001 18:08 umm, *i am you know... yours*... isn't that an i love you is a jossonian way?IP: LoggedThe RoseFloating Rose Naturegal,
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posted June 25, 2001 18:21 Rane,Naturegal,
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With the kiss, it was as though it had happened before; therefore was natural and without the whole first kiss label on it.
I'd like to see Tara say something along the lines of "Honey, you know I love you but..." or something like that.
I'm convinced they've already said it. That Tara's already said it. So no need for big drama.
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Originally posted by Glory-p3-mrs:
i couldnt think of a time when tara has used willows name.
I think you'll notice, if you watch Tough Love again, that Willow's name was the only one that Tara said. In all the confusion she felt, the one person she recognised was Willow. Their love appears in so many ways; it's clear to me that they have a totally romantic relationship in the classic sense (as well as in a real sense), where proclamations and 'I love you's' aren't necessary, because it shines out of them all of the time.
"Tara had never felt as good about herself in her life. Willow gave her that gift. And another gift. Tara couldn't quite bring herself to call it love. Not yet. But there was time." ~ Unseen: The Burning
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posted June 25, 2001 19:16 I would like to see them say 'I love you' in a way that indicates they've already said it. In a similar way to the method that most people wanted to see the kiss.With the kiss, it was as though it had happened before; therefore was natural and without the whole first kiss label on it.
I'd like to see Tara say something along the lines of "Honey, you know I love you but..." or something like that.
I'm convinced they've already said it. That Tara's already said it. So no need for big drama.
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Originally posted by Glory-p3-mrs:
i couldnt think of a time when tara has used willows name.
I think you'll notice, if you watch Tough Love again, that Willow's name was the only one that Tara said. In all the confusion she felt, the one person she recognised was Willow. Their love appears in so many ways; it's clear to me that they have a totally romantic relationship in the classic sense (as well as in a real sense), where proclamations and 'I love you's' aren't necessary, because it shines out of them all of the time.
"Tara had never felt as good about herself in her life. Willow gave her that gift. And another gift. Tara couldn't quite bring herself to call it love. Not yet. But there was time." ~ Unseen: The Burning
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posted June 25, 2001 22:21 mm.. I never noticed that. Maybe Tara will say it more now though after the "being lost" incident and now being her normal self because of Willow saving the day.IP: LoggedxitaMs. Moderator Tara has said Willow's name many times. In fact, the first time I recall is The in Team when Willow comes back to Tara apologizing for ditching her and going out to hang with the scoobies. Tara opens the door and says, "willow."
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posted June 25, 2001 23:11 Rane beat me to it. I think "I am you know... yours" is deeper than an I love you in some ways. I am sure Tara has said it privately. Though I would like to hear her say it.Tara has said Willow's name many times. In fact, the first time I recall is The in Team when Willow comes back to Tara apologizing for ditching her and going out to hang with the scoobies. Tara opens the door and says, "willow."
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posted June 25, 2001 23:16 I know. When she says it in TIIT, it's all out of breath and sexy. Yikes!IP: LoggedShaniezakTara Ass Okay. Still having so much trouble with that acronym, but . . .
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posted June 25, 2001 23:20 *covers face with hands*Okay. Still having so much trouble with that acronym, but . . .
Oh, what I'd do to have that big grin and sexy voice saying my name on the other side of a door when I knock . . .
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posted June 25, 2001 23:28 All together now *SIGH*IP: LoggedellenfanBlessed Wannabe quote:
Originally posted by Rane:
umm, *i am you know... yours*... isn't that an i love you is a jossonian way?
The "I am you know...yours" line is what I had to think of too when reading the beginning of this thread. Tara doesn´t have to say "I love you" to Willow because she has said it all with this one line when they weren´t even a couple yet. I think that we from then on were all completely convinced that Tara actually loves Willow. By doing this, Tara has shown a lot of courage.
Nevertheless, I think she has said it to Willow many times. Maybe the writers felt the need to show Willow saying it because they wanted to convince all the viewers who still doubted her feelings for Tara. What strikes me though is that although Willow has said it in "The Body", the fight in "Tough Love" shows that Tara still has doubts.
Oh, I almost forgot: *SIGH*!!!
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posted June 26, 2001 12:16quote:
Originally posted by Rane:
umm, *i am you know... yours*... isn't that an i love you is a jossonian way?
The "I am you know...yours" line is what I had to think of too when reading the beginning of this thread. Tara doesn´t have to say "I love you" to Willow because she has said it all with this one line when they weren´t even a couple yet. I think that we from then on were all completely convinced that Tara actually loves Willow. By doing this, Tara has shown a lot of courage.
Nevertheless, I think she has said it to Willow many times. Maybe the writers felt the need to show Willow saying it because they wanted to convince all the viewers who still doubted her feelings for Tara. What strikes me though is that although Willow has said it in "The Body", the fight in "Tough Love" shows that Tara still has doubts.
Oh, I almost forgot: *SIGH*!!!
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posted June 26, 2001 14:20 Tara is more of an actions gal rather than a words one, don'tya think? Willow is the vocab chick of the duo. It's starting to change, but it's a residue of Tara's shyness i think. It's hard to go from a no body to someones everything quickly you know? Am i making any sense? Probably not, but hey! And you don't need to hear Tara tell Willow that she loves her, it's so obvious! Pretty much up there with shovel-in-face for sheer blantentness i think! You just gotta focus on W/T and their moments together, look at the way Tara looks at Will when she doesn't think that she is looking, and the way that Tara was the strong one in 'The Body'. Even before that, her love was obvious. "I am you know." "What?" "Yours." See? Feel the love!IP: LoggedThe RoseFloating Rose IP: Logged
posted June 26, 2001 15:20 What can you say? They are just so darn cute!!!!!!!!!IP: LoggedWiccanBexBlessed Wannabe i do think i know why they haven't said it on screen though. and it's super simple, really (doesn't rule out me being wrong though) and someone else may have said this... i may not have been reading the other replies closely enough.
but joss held out on the kiss for so long because he didn't want it to be seen as a plot device. he wanted it to be natural, something that *had* to happen, rather than just for the ratings. and he succeeded.
so i think that willow and tara haven't had the whole "i love u!" "i love you too!" big scene because it hasn't been necessary, and joss doesn't want people to think that he's just cashing in on the lesbian love thing.
maybe i'm wrong... but i think that this hugely important expression of their love for each other will be handled as beautifully as the kiss was - as and when joss thinks it's time.
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posted June 26, 2001 15:43 ok... i think tara probably *has* said "i love you" because i don't think the relationship would be as strong if she hadn't. i mean, i know the words don't mean everything... but i do think that actually voicing how you feel adds a lot of strength to a relationship... and willow and tara's relationship is very strong - look how they survived the whole "tara's insane!" thing! that was amazing.i do think i know why they haven't said it on screen though. and it's super simple, really (doesn't rule out me being wrong though) and someone else may have said this... i may not have been reading the other replies closely enough.
but joss held out on the kiss for so long because he didn't want it to be seen as a plot device. he wanted it to be natural, something that *had* to happen, rather than just for the ratings. and he succeeded.
so i think that willow and tara haven't had the whole "i love u!" "i love you too!" big scene because it hasn't been necessary, and joss doesn't want people to think that he's just cashing in on the lesbian love thing.
maybe i'm wrong... but i think that this hugely important expression of their love for each other will be handled as beautifully as the kiss was - as and when joss thinks it's time.
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I know I'm just a old romantic, but I'm happy. Those two are just so perfect together.
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posted June 26, 2001 16:11 In mind I have no doubt that Tara has said the magic words to her in private. Tara's love for Willow is evident all around, I have seen it in the way she looks at Willow. (Just watch them in The Body)Their relationship is just so beautiful, I love them so much. Yes I would love to hear Tara whisper those words to Willow on screen. I am however content that off screen Tara has said to Willow that she loves her.
I know I'm just a old romantic, but I'm happy. Those two are just so perfect together.
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posted June 26, 2001 20:52 I think it's much more romantic, not to mention better writing and better television entertainment, to say something that's not "I love you" that still means I love you, i.e. the "I am you know....yours." To me, that's such a better line than a simple I love you because it says so much more and is so much more original and therefore so much more meaningful. Anyone can say "I love you," but it takes something else, some deeper emotions or something like that, so say, in the beginnings of a relationship that may not even be spoken of, "I am you know...yours."by Dr.G » Mon Jun 25, 2001 1:26 pm
However, what we *have* been shown can leave no doubt as to the complete and unconditional love they have for each other.
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With the kiss, it was as though it had happened before; therefore was natural and without the whole first kiss label on it.
I'd like to see Tara say something along the lines of "Honey, you know I love you but..." or something like that.
I'm convinced they've already said it. That Tara's already said it. So no need for big drama.
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i couldnt think of a time when tara has used willows name.
I think you'll notice, if you watch Tough Love again, that Willow's name was the only one that Tara said. In all the confusion she felt, the one person she recognised was Willow. Their love appears in so many ways; it's clear to me that they have a totally romantic relationship in the classic sense (as well as in a real sense), where proclamations and 'I love you's' aren't necessary, because it shines out of them all of the time.
"Tara had never felt as good about herself in her life. Willow gave her that gift. And another gift. Tara couldn't quite bring herself to call it love. Not yet. But there was time." ~ Unseen: The Burning
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Tara has said Willow's name many times. In fact, the first time I recall is The in Team when Willow comes back to Tara apologizing for ditching her and going out to hang with the scoobies. Tara opens the door and says, "willow."
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Okay. Still having so much trouble with that acronym, but . . .
Oh, what I'd do to have that big grin and sexy voice saying my name on the other side of a door when I knock . . .
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umm, *i am you know... yours*... isn't that an i love you is a jossonian way?
The "I am you know...yours" line is what I had to think of too when reading the beginning of this thread. Tara doesn´t have to say "I love you" to Willow because she has said it all with this one line when they weren´t even a couple yet. I think that we from then on were all completely convinced that Tara actually loves Willow. By doing this, Tara has shown a lot of courage.
Nevertheless, I think she has said it to Willow many times. Maybe the writers felt the need to show Willow saying it because they wanted to convince all the viewers who still doubted her feelings for Tara. What strikes me though is that although Willow has said it in "The Body", the fight in "Tough Love" shows that Tara still has doubts.
Oh, I almost forgot: *SIGH*!!!
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i do think i know why they haven't said it on screen though. and it's super simple, really (doesn't rule out me being wrong though) and someone else may have said this... i may not have been reading the other replies closely enough.
but joss held out on the kiss for so long because he didn't want it to be seen as a plot device. he wanted it to be natural, something that *had* to happen, rather than just for the ratings. and he succeeded.
so i think that willow and tara haven't had the whole "i love u!" "i love you too!" big scene because it hasn't been necessary, and joss doesn't want people to think that he's just cashing in on the lesbian love thing.
maybe i'm wrong... but i think that this hugely important expression of their love for each other will be handled as beautifully as the kiss was - as and when joss thinks it's time.
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Their relationship is just so beautiful, I love them so much. Yes I would love to hear Tara whisper those words to Willow on screen. I am however content that off screen Tara has said to Willow that she loves her.
I know I'm just a old romantic, but I'm happy. Those two are just so perfect together.
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posted June 25, 2001 17:02 Tara has told Willow in private, I think that one is a given and lets face it you only have to see the way Tara looks at Willow to know that she adores her, and she does look at Willow, a lot!As for her not saying it on screen I suspect the writers are just being evil yet again, and saving it up for some really angsty moment before Tara actually says it out loud for we mere mortals to hear, gotta love Joss (not!)
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posted June 25, 2001 17:12 I have no doubt that Tara has told Willow she loves her a million times in private (same for Willow) but it is one of my wishes for the next season...that W/T tell each other "I love you", hopefully more than onceIP: LoggedGlory-p3-mrsBlessed Wannabe IP: Logged
posted June 25, 2001 17:32 hey, not to sound all negative, cuz i love em', but.... i'm not so sure tara has said it. i mean, i feel, (know), that she does, but i dont think she has actually said she loves will. i also think will knows it. however, i also thought there was something going on bec/ i couldnt think of a time when tara has used willows name. so i might not have any credit to my name on such topics.... ------------------
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posted June 25, 2001 17:40 I didn't think it might be an issue until the book "Unseen" when it mentioned that Tara wasn't ready to call it love yet (I'm assuming she means for herself). Of course, a lot of time has passed since then, but I did find it odd that we've only heard Willow say it. They are so deliberate on that show, that it made me wonder if there was a reason (Tara's insecurities). I have no doubt though that Tara loves Willow in her heart.IP: LoggedRaneTara Ass IP: Logged
posted June 25, 2001 18:08 umm, *i am you know... yours*... isn't that an i love you is a jossonian way?IP: LoggedThe RoseFloating Rose Naturegal,
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posted June 25, 2001 18:21 Rane,Naturegal,
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With the kiss, it was as though it had happened before; therefore was natural and without the whole first kiss label on it.
I'd like to see Tara say something along the lines of "Honey, you know I love you but..." or something like that.
I'm convinced they've already said it. That Tara's already said it. So no need for big drama.
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Originally posted by Glory-p3-mrs:
i couldnt think of a time when tara has used willows name.
I think you'll notice, if you watch Tough Love again, that Willow's name was the only one that Tara said. In all the confusion she felt, the one person she recognised was Willow. Their love appears in so many ways; it's clear to me that they have a totally romantic relationship in the classic sense (as well as in a real sense), where proclamations and 'I love you's' aren't necessary, because it shines out of them all of the time.
"Tara had never felt as good about herself in her life. Willow gave her that gift. And another gift. Tara couldn't quite bring herself to call it love. Not yet. But there was time." ~ Unseen: The Burning
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posted June 25, 2001 19:16 I would like to see them say 'I love you' in a way that indicates they've already said it. In a similar way to the method that most people wanted to see the kiss.With the kiss, it was as though it had happened before; therefore was natural and without the whole first kiss label on it.
I'd like to see Tara say something along the lines of "Honey, you know I love you but..." or something like that.
I'm convinced they've already said it. That Tara's already said it. So no need for big drama.
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Originally posted by Glory-p3-mrs:
i couldnt think of a time when tara has used willows name.
I think you'll notice, if you watch Tough Love again, that Willow's name was the only one that Tara said. In all the confusion she felt, the one person she recognised was Willow. Their love appears in so many ways; it's clear to me that they have a totally romantic relationship in the classic sense (as well as in a real sense), where proclamations and 'I love you's' aren't necessary, because it shines out of them all of the time.
"Tara had never felt as good about herself in her life. Willow gave her that gift. And another gift. Tara couldn't quite bring herself to call it love. Not yet. But there was time." ~ Unseen: The Burning
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posted June 25, 2001 22:21 mm.. I never noticed that. Maybe Tara will say it more now though after the "being lost" incident and now being her normal self because of Willow saving the day.IP: LoggedxitaMs. Moderator Tara has said Willow's name many times. In fact, the first time I recall is The in Team when Willow comes back to Tara apologizing for ditching her and going out to hang with the scoobies. Tara opens the door and says, "willow."
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posted June 25, 2001 23:11 Rane beat me to it. I think "I am you know... yours" is deeper than an I love you in some ways. I am sure Tara has said it privately. Though I would like to hear her say it.Tara has said Willow's name many times. In fact, the first time I recall is The in Team when Willow comes back to Tara apologizing for ditching her and going out to hang with the scoobies. Tara opens the door and says, "willow."
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posted June 25, 2001 23:16 I know. When she says it in TIIT, it's all out of breath and sexy. Yikes!IP: LoggedShaniezakTara Ass Okay. Still having so much trouble with that acronym, but . . .
Oh, what I'd do to have that big grin and sexy voice saying my name on the other side of a door when I knock . . .
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posted June 25, 2001 23:20 *covers face with hands*Okay. Still having so much trouble with that acronym, but . . .
Oh, what I'd do to have that big grin and sexy voice saying my name on the other side of a door when I knock . . .
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posted June 25, 2001 23:28 All together now *SIGH*IP: LoggedellenfanBlessed Wannabe quote:
Originally posted by Rane:
umm, *i am you know... yours*... isn't that an i love you is a jossonian way?
The "I am you know...yours" line is what I had to think of too when reading the beginning of this thread. Tara doesn´t have to say "I love you" to Willow because she has said it all with this one line when they weren´t even a couple yet. I think that we from then on were all completely convinced that Tara actually loves Willow. By doing this, Tara has shown a lot of courage.
Nevertheless, I think she has said it to Willow many times. Maybe the writers felt the need to show Willow saying it because they wanted to convince all the viewers who still doubted her feelings for Tara. What strikes me though is that although Willow has said it in "The Body", the fight in "Tough Love" shows that Tara still has doubts.
Oh, I almost forgot: *SIGH*!!!
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posted June 26, 2001 12:16quote:
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umm, *i am you know... yours*... isn't that an i love you is a jossonian way?
The "I am you know...yours" line is what I had to think of too when reading the beginning of this thread. Tara doesn´t have to say "I love you" to Willow because she has said it all with this one line when they weren´t even a couple yet. I think that we from then on were all completely convinced that Tara actually loves Willow. By doing this, Tara has shown a lot of courage.
Nevertheless, I think she has said it to Willow many times. Maybe the writers felt the need to show Willow saying it because they wanted to convince all the viewers who still doubted her feelings for Tara. What strikes me though is that although Willow has said it in "The Body", the fight in "Tough Love" shows that Tara still has doubts.
Oh, I almost forgot: *SIGH*!!!
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posted June 26, 2001 14:20 Tara is more of an actions gal rather than a words one, don'tya think? Willow is the vocab chick of the duo. It's starting to change, but it's a residue of Tara's shyness i think. It's hard to go from a no body to someones everything quickly you know? Am i making any sense? Probably not, but hey! And you don't need to hear Tara tell Willow that she loves her, it's so obvious! Pretty much up there with shovel-in-face for sheer blantentness i think! You just gotta focus on W/T and their moments together, look at the way Tara looks at Will when she doesn't think that she is looking, and the way that Tara was the strong one in 'The Body'. Even before that, her love was obvious. "I am you know." "What?" "Yours." See? Feel the love!IP: LoggedThe RoseFloating Rose IP: Logged
posted June 26, 2001 15:20 What can you say? They are just so darn cute!!!!!!!!!IP: LoggedWiccanBexBlessed Wannabe i do think i know why they haven't said it on screen though. and it's super simple, really (doesn't rule out me being wrong though) and someone else may have said this... i may not have been reading the other replies closely enough.
but joss held out on the kiss for so long because he didn't want it to be seen as a plot device. he wanted it to be natural, something that *had* to happen, rather than just for the ratings. and he succeeded.
so i think that willow and tara haven't had the whole "i love u!" "i love you too!" big scene because it hasn't been necessary, and joss doesn't want people to think that he's just cashing in on the lesbian love thing.
maybe i'm wrong... but i think that this hugely important expression of their love for each other will be handled as beautifully as the kiss was - as and when joss thinks it's time.
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posted June 26, 2001 15:43 ok... i think tara probably *has* said "i love you" because i don't think the relationship would be as strong if she hadn't. i mean, i know the words don't mean everything... but i do think that actually voicing how you feel adds a lot of strength to a relationship... and willow and tara's relationship is very strong - look how they survived the whole "tara's insane!" thing! that was amazing.i do think i know why they haven't said it on screen though. and it's super simple, really (doesn't rule out me being wrong though) and someone else may have said this... i may not have been reading the other replies closely enough.
but joss held out on the kiss for so long because he didn't want it to be seen as a plot device. he wanted it to be natural, something that *had* to happen, rather than just for the ratings. and he succeeded.
so i think that willow and tara haven't had the whole "i love u!" "i love you too!" big scene because it hasn't been necessary, and joss doesn't want people to think that he's just cashing in on the lesbian love thing.
maybe i'm wrong... but i think that this hugely important expression of their love for each other will be handled as beautifully as the kiss was - as and when joss thinks it's time.
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I know I'm just a old romantic, but I'm happy. Those two are just so perfect together.
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posted June 26, 2001 16:11 In mind I have no doubt that Tara has said the magic words to her in private. Tara's love for Willow is evident all around, I have seen it in the way she looks at Willow. (Just watch them in The Body)Their relationship is just so beautiful, I love them so much. Yes I would love to hear Tara whisper those words to Willow on screen. I am however content that off screen Tara has said to Willow that she loves her.
I know I'm just a old romantic, but I'm happy. Those two are just so perfect together.
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posted June 26, 2001 20:52 I think it's much more romantic, not to mention better writing and better television entertainment, to say something that's not "I love you" that still means I love you, i.e. the "I am you know....yours." To me, that's such a better line than a simple I love you because it says so much more and is so much more original and therefore so much more meaningful. Anyone can say "I love you," but it takes something else, some deeper emotions or something like that, so say, in the beginnings of a relationship that may not even be spoken of, "I am you know...yours."by minion » Mon Jun 25, 2001 2:02 pm
As for her not saying it on screen I suspect the writers are just being evil yet again, and saving it up for some really angsty moment before Tara actually says it out loud for we mere mortals to hear, gotta love Joss (not!)
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by Glory-p3-mrs » Mon Jun 25, 2001 2:32 pm
by Dr.G » Mon Jun 25, 2001 2:37 pm
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by Rane » Mon Jun 25, 2001 3:08 pm
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by tommo » Mon Jun 25, 2001 4:16 pm
With the kiss, it was as though it had happened before; therefore was natural and without the whole first kiss label on it.
I'd like to see Tara say something along the lines of "Honey, you know I love you but..." or something like that.
I'm convinced they've already said it. That Tara's already said it. So no need for big drama.
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Originally posted by Glory-p3-mrs:
i couldnt think of a time when tara has used willows name.
I think you'll notice, if you watch Tough Love again, that Willow's name was the only one that Tara said. In all the confusion she felt, the one person she recognised was Willow. Their love appears in so many ways; it's clear to me that they have a totally romantic relationship in the classic sense (as well as in a real sense), where proclamations and 'I love you's' aren't necessary, because it shines out of them all of the time.
"Tara had never felt as good about herself in her life. Willow gave her that gift. And another gift. Tara couldn't quite bring herself to call it love. Not yet. But there was time." ~ Unseen: The Burning
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by xita » Mon Jun 25, 2001 8:11 pm
Tara has said Willow's name many times. In fact, the first time I recall is The in Team when Willow comes back to Tara apologizing for ditching her and going out to hang with the scoobies. Tara opens the door and says, "willow."
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by xita » Mon Jun 25, 2001 8:16 pm
by Shaniezak » Mon Jun 25, 2001 8:20 pm
Okay. Still having so much trouble with that acronym, but . . .
Oh, what I'd do to have that big grin and sexy voice saying my name on the other side of a door when I knock . . .
by ellenfan » Tue Jun 26, 2001 9:16 am
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Originally posted by Rane:
umm, *i am you know... yours*... isn't that an i love you is a jossonian way?
The "I am you know...yours" line is what I had to think of too when reading the beginning of this thread. Tara doesn´t have to say "I love you" to Willow because she has said it all with this one line when they weren´t even a couple yet. I think that we from then on were all completely convinced that Tara actually loves Willow. By doing this, Tara has shown a lot of courage.
Nevertheless, I think she has said it to Willow many times. Maybe the writers felt the need to show Willow saying it because they wanted to convince all the viewers who still doubted her feelings for Tara. What strikes me though is that although Willow has said it in "The Body", the fight in "Tough Love" shows that Tara still has doubts.
Oh, I almost forgot: *SIGH*!!!
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by The Rose » Tue Jun 26, 2001 12:20 pm
by WiccanBex » Tue Jun 26, 2001 12:43 pm
i do think i know why they haven't said it on screen though. and it's super simple, really (doesn't rule out me being wrong though) and someone else may have said this... i may not have been reading the other replies closely enough.
but joss held out on the kiss for so long because he didn't want it to be seen as a plot device. he wanted it to be natural, something that *had* to happen, rather than just for the ratings. and he succeeded.
so i think that willow and tara haven't had the whole "i love u!" "i love you too!" big scene because it hasn't been necessary, and joss doesn't want people to think that he's just cashing in on the lesbian love thing.
maybe i'm wrong... but i think that this hugely important expression of their love for each other will be handled as beautifully as the kiss was - as and when joss thinks it's time.
by AngelusUK » Tue Jun 26, 2001 1:11 pm
Their relationship is just so beautiful, I love them so much. Yes I would love to hear Tara whisper those words to Willow on screen. I am however content that off screen Tara has said to Willow that she loves her.
I know I'm just a old romantic, but I'm happy. Those two are just so perfect together.
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by Glory-p3-mrs » Wed Jun 27, 2001 7:52 am
i do love them, you all know that right? i mean i wouldn't be here if i didn't. i'm just a noncomformist. i wouldn't rule out the possibility that somewhere in my subconcious i'm just doing this to follow the pattern of running against the current that is me! my mind works in weird ways- when its working at all, that is.
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What we're saying, however, is that Tara has probably already said this to Willow. Just because it's not been onscreen yet doesn't mean it hasn't happened. I mean, we're all pretty much sure that Willow and Tara have had sex, but again, just because we've never seen it doesn't mean they haven't.
It's an interesting point you raise about Tara, however, that she somehow has a fear of people she loves being taken away from her. In retrospect, I suppose that her shyness and reticence in her personal life might have indicated that.
But now, I'm sure that Tara knows Willow won't be going anywhere soon, not even back to Boystown, heh heh. And I get the feeling that after the events of Tough Love and The Gift, Tara pretty much knows that nothing can keep them apart.
Besides, in New Moon Rising, Willow chose Tara didn't she? Not Oz, not life without Tara, but Tara. And she keeps on choosing her, loving her, protecting her, fighting for her. That speaks volumes to me.
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Personaly I feel they becaem an offiicial couple around Who Are You? but didn't tell anyone else. The Bronze trip kind of like a first date. From what Willow says to Buffy in NMR I get the impression they are dating. The end of NMR is when I feel they first sleep together but the kiss came sooner; probably around the Flaming o spell.
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IP: LoggedtommoStrong like an Amazon What we're saying, however, is that Tara has probably already said this to Willow. Just because it's not been onscreen yet doesn't mean it hasn't happened. I mean, we're all pretty much sure that Willow and Tara have had sex, but again, just because we've never seen it doesn't mean they haven't.
It's an interesting point you raise about Tara, however, that she somehow has a fear of people she loves being taken away from her. In retrospect, I suppose that her shyness and reticence in her personal life might have indicated that.
But now, I'm sure that Tara knows Willow won't be going anywhere soon, not even back to Boystown, heh heh. And I get the feeling that after the events of Tough Love and The Gift, Tara pretty much knows that nothing can keep them apart.
Besides, in New Moon Rising, Willow chose Tara didn't she? Not Oz, not life without Tara, but Tara. And she keeps on choosing her, loving her, protecting her, fighting for her. That speaks volumes to me.
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posted June 27, 2001 13:40 Glory, seems to me that you're saying Tara has a fear of the actual words, "I love you." That if she says them, then Willow will be somehow taken away from her.What we're saying, however, is that Tara has probably already said this to Willow. Just because it's not been onscreen yet doesn't mean it hasn't happened. I mean, we're all pretty much sure that Willow and Tara have had sex, but again, just because we've never seen it doesn't mean they haven't.
It's an interesting point you raise about Tara, however, that she somehow has a fear of people she loves being taken away from her. In retrospect, I suppose that her shyness and reticence in her personal life might have indicated that.
But now, I'm sure that Tara knows Willow won't be going anywhere soon, not even back to Boystown, heh heh. And I get the feeling that after the events of Tough Love and The Gift, Tara pretty much knows that nothing can keep them apart.
Besides, in New Moon Rising, Willow chose Tara didn't she? Not Oz, not life without Tara, but Tara. And she keeps on choosing her, loving her, protecting her, fighting for her. That speaks volumes to me.
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"Tara had never felt as good about herself in her life. Willow gave her that gift. And another gift. Tara couldn't quite bring herself to call it love. Not yet. But there was time." ~ Unseen: The Burning
Personaly I feel they becaem an offiicial couple around Who Are You? but didn't tell anyone else. The Bronze trip kind of like a first date. From what Willow says to Buffy in NMR I get the impression they are dating. The end of NMR is when I feel they first sleep together but the kiss came sooner; probably around the Flaming o spell.
What do you think?
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"Liberate tutemet ex inferis"
"I am you know... yours"
"I think i'm kinda gay"
"In all my travels throughout the universe I have battled against evil; against power mad conspirators. Ha, I should have stayed here;the oldest civilisation, decadent, degenerate and rotten to the core! Hah! Power mad conspirators, daleks, sontarans, Cybermen... They're still in the nursery compared to us. Ten million years of absolute power; that's what it takes to be really corrupt!"
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posted June 27, 2001 14:22 Ok, i was wondering, when do YOU think they :Personaly I feel they becaem an offiicial couple around Who Are You? but didn't tell anyone else. The Bronze trip kind of like a first date. From what Willow says to Buffy in NMR I get the impression they are dating. The end of NMR is when I feel they first sleep together but the kiss came sooner; probably around the Flaming o spell.
What do you think?
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"Liberate tutemet ex inferis"
"I am you know... yours"
"I think i'm kinda gay"
"In all my travels throughout the universe I have battled against evil; against power mad conspirators. Ha, I should have stayed here;the oldest civilisation, decadent, degenerate and rotten to the core! Hah! Power mad conspirators, daleks, sontarans, Cybermen... They're still in the nursery compared to us. Ten million years of absolute power; that's what it takes to be really corrupt!"
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posted June 27, 2001 18:37 tommo, i totally agree that if there ever was a problem, its gone now. i really don't see how tara could not believe in will's love for her now. so i suspect, and hope, that if the words havent already been spoken after all the insanity stuff that they will be. we still probably wouldnt get to see this sceen though, because joss said hes picking up next season a few months after the finales.IP: LoggedtommoStrong like an Amazon ------------------
"Tara had never felt as good about herself in her life. Willow gave her that gift. And another gift. Tara couldn't quite bring herself to call it love. Not yet. But there was time." ~ Unseen: The Burning
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posted June 27, 2001 21:11 Ah, so perhaps all the black magic stuff will have been sorted out by then too? I'm not so sure I like that idea. I'm all for a teeny tiny bit of angst with lots of make up smoochies afterwards. Then we'll hear the 'I love you'.------------------
"Tara had never felt as good about herself in her life. Willow gave her that gift. And another gift. Tara couldn't quite bring herself to call it love. Not yet. But there was time." ~ Unseen: The Burning
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