by The Rose » Tue Dec 25, 2001 8:53 pm
Hasn't this season been bad enough?!!!!
It seems like the rest of this season should be recovery, reuniting and healing.
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Tara: My heart doesn't stutter.
Tara: Willow, I got so lost.
Willow: I found you. I will always find you.
Tara: Nobody messes with my girl!
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by Warduke » Tue Dec 25, 2001 9:29 pm
by BBOvenGuy » Tue Dec 25, 2001 9:43 pm
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Remember the Kitten Board Mantra: "Joss is nuts about Tara, Willow/Tara and Amber!"
(...and Marti's rather fond of them, too...)
by Dr.G » Wed Dec 26, 2001 3:29 am
quote:quote:
Ok someone called eaglesummit posted this at the fanforum spoiler board:Hey! In my local tv guide paper they have a Q&A of TV and someone was asking about Tara leaving Buffy. Well, here's the quote for quote:
Q: We are very upset that writers on BTVS have dropped Amber Benson from the show. The relationship between her character and Willow (Alyson Hannigan) gives Buffy a lot of its heart.
A: "I think this has been blown a little out of proportion," responds Marti Noxon, one of the show's executive producers. "Amber is under contract to do 16 out of our 22 episodes this season, which isn't really different from last year. She wasn't in all the shows then, either. As for the storyline, well, like everything else in Sunnydale, relationships often don't run smoothly, and Willow and Tara are just going through some problems now, like all our couples. How Tara will come back into the show, and what her future holds, however, is just something fans will have to wait and see."
by buffelina » Wed Dec 26, 2001 8:58 am
by Zahir » Wed Dec 26, 2001 9:25 am
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"O let my name be in the Book of Love.
If it be there, I care not of
That other book Above...
Strike it out! Or write it in anew.
But let it be in the Book of Love!"
--Omar Kyam
by xita » Thu Jan 10, 2002 8:31 am
by AutumnT » Thu Jan 10, 2002 8:43 am
by imperfectly » Thu Jan 10, 2002 11:27 am
quote:
Candy: Can you tell us about Tara? She's not a cast member so she can only appear in a certain amount of episodes, but she is returning?
Drew: Absolutely.
Candy: Can you give us any hint of what to expect with Willow and Tara and Tara's place in all of this?
Drew: Well, isn't it interesting that the reason why Tara left is something that Willow's finally addressing now? So you're gonna see Willow wonder if that means that things are going to change between her and Tara.
Kitty: Well, I also think that for Dawn, Tara's really the only one that she feels she can trust.
Candy: Well notice that the house is a mess and just in a shambles after Tara leaves.
Drew: That's right, Tara was a calming influence. Tara's gonna continue to be a really good influence on our characters and even beyond Willow.
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Well, now that came out a lot more lesbian than it sounded in my head.
by darvangi » Thu Jan 10, 2002 12:57 pm
by xita » Mon Jan 14, 2002 8:22 am
from the Chicago Tribune Internet Edition
http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/ ... sure%2Dhed
Buffy's been slaying 'em for six stellar seasons
Joshua Klein
Published January 13, 2002
"Buffy the Vampire Slayer" may be well into its sixth successful season, but there's actually never been a better time to catch up with UPN's hip comedy-horror-drama. Not only can the monster-battling Buffy now be seen in reruns on Fox and FX, the show's first season has just been released as a DVD set. But it can be tough to keep all the characters straight, especially when it comes to the show's rotating cast of formidable villains, so here's a handy guide to the best nasties Buffy has faced over the years, with comments on each by "Buffy" creator Joss Whedon.
Villain: The Master, an ancient, bat-like vampire trapped underground but bent on returning to the surface.
First appearance: Season one, "Welcome to Hellmouth"
Fate: Dispatched by Buffy, who threw him through a glass ceiling and onto a giant wooden shard.
What Joss says: "It's fun not to have the all-powerful cackling villain, who for some reason or another doesn't kill Buffy as soon as he can."
Villain: Spike and Drusilla, a sardonic bleach-blond vampire and his unpredictable partner.
First appearance: Season two, "School Hard"
Fate: Spike had a chip installed that prevents him from harming humans, while Drusilla split with Spike and headed off for parts unknown (she later showed up in L.A. on the "Buffy" spinoff "Angel").
What Joss says: "Spike I decided I wanted in the mix [in later seasons]. You had to get him in there, but you didn't want to turn him into a puppy dog. First we came up with the chip, then he fell in love with Buffy, so he was walking both sides. But when he first entered with Drusilla, we had no idea where the story would end up."
Villain: Ethan Rayne, an Englishman into black magic
First appearance: Season two, "Halloween"
Fate: Shows up and vanishes in a later episode, to perhaps return again.
What Joss says: "We had a lot of fun with Robin [Sachs], but the right story has to rear its head, where [having that particular] person is integral. We have so many characters to work with now."
Villain: Faith, a vampire slayer gone bad
First appearance: Season three, "Faith, Hope, and Trick"
Fate: After waking from a coma, Faith causes more trouble before leaving town.
What Joss says: "Faith's original story arc was about family and fathers. [Her co-conspirator the Mayor] had a truly fatherly affection for Faith. When she came back we sort of redeemed her on `Angel.'"
Villain: Mayor Richard Wilkins, the Machiavellian man running Sunnydale, who's in league with eeeee-vil.
First appearance: Season three, "Homecoming"
Fate: Blown up after turning into a giant serpent.
What Joss says: "Just a charming guy to write. He was so what the world was supposed to be -- chipper and caring -- and then also apocalyptically evil. That's part of the show: the things we take for granted as being benevolent and protective can also be corruptive and horrible."
Villain: The Gentlemen, strange, well-dressed ghouls scour a silent Sunnydale to harvest Hearts.
First appearance: Season four, "Hush"
Fate: Killed by Buffy's scream.
What Joss says: "I wanted to create a truly old-fashioned, Brothers Grimm, silent-movie nightmare scenario, and they fit that criteria. I devised their gentlemanliness to be like creepy, very old Victoria-era serial killers."
Villain: Dracula (you need an explanation?)
First appearance: Season five, "Buffy vs. Dracula"
Fate: Buffy slays Drac by staking him in the heart.
What Joss says: "The monsters are secondary to the emotions. They're there to service [emotions]. There was a time when we thought how can we do Frankenstein, how can we do the Mummy. But you run out of [characters from] Universal horror movies quickly."
Villain: The Legion of Dim, three nerdy guys out to wreak havoc on Sunnydale.
First appearance: As a trio (some appeared individually in other episodes): Season six, "Flooded"
Fate: Not yet revealed.
What Joss says: "We've gone with [villains that were] Gods and robots and monsters of every stripe, and [we've also had] the apocalypse. We wanted something with a totally different vibe. We wanted people whose lives were more similar to our characters', people who had actually grown up with them rather than some external force with whom our characters would never interact. They're also funny!"
by darvangi » Mon Jan 14, 2002 10:00 am
by Dumbsaint » Mon Jan 14, 2002 3:10 pm
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Xander: I want something that's just, y' know, foamy.
Tito: I am, you know.
Xander: What?
Tito: Drunk.
by BBOvenGuy » Mon Jan 14, 2002 3:21 pm
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(...and Marti's rather fond of them, too...)
by katydid » Mon Jan 14, 2002 3:26 pm
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"She practically has 'genuine molded plastic' stamped on her ass.
by The Godfather » Mon Jan 14, 2002 3:28 pm
-Shawn
by Wiccagrrl » Mon Jan 14, 2002 5:26 pm
quote:
Originally posted by BBOvenGuy:
I said this once on the spoiler thread, but I'll say it here as well - taking a situation where you've got someone who looks comical and then turning that person around so they become evil and frightening is one of my favorite writing tricks. I can totally see Joss doing that, with Warren at least if not the entire trio.
I totally agree. I think Warren has real potential, especially since we the audience have been led to think they are all fairly harmless.
And, echoing Shawn's comment, I do hope Jonathan survives this arc ok. I doubt they'll kill him off, but bad things could happen, and I have always kinda liked the character.
by JJ » Tue Jan 15, 2002 6:50 pm
quote:
Originally posted by xita:
Joss' opinion on the big bads:
from the Chicago Tribune Internet Edition
http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/ ... y?coll=chi%2 Dleisure%2Dhed
Buffy's been slaying 'em for six stellar seasonsJoshua Klein
Published January 13, 2002
Xita, you beat me to it. No fair! LA people shouldn't be able to post Chicago articles! This was mine, dammit! MINE, I TELL YOU!
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Keeper of the kitten spirit that lies in us all
Keeper of the fluffy pink rhinos (don't ask)
The 100th Light for Tara
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"Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand."
from 'Witch Hunt' by Rush
by Dr.G » Fri Jan 18, 2002 2:38 pm
A new interview with marti noxon:
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main ... 8/13.00.tv
quote:quote:Buffy Getting Darker
Buffy the Vampire Slayer executive producer Marti Noxon told SCI FI Wire that the show will turn darker as it enters the home stretch of its sixth season. "One of the questions we've been getting a lot of is there doesn't seem to be a big bad this season," Noxon said in an interview. "And what I can say is that the climax is going to be big. There may not be a big bad, but there's a big bad climax coming. I think basically what people can expect is that the seeds that have been planted throughout the season, the kind of troubles that have been brewing with all the characters, are all going to come to a head. But ... this whole season has been very character-driven. There's not so much stuff coming from the outside."
This year, the show's characters have dealt with the issues of growing up and facing young adulthood, Noxon said during UPN's winter press tour in Pasadena, Calif. "Buffy is dealing with a ton of adult issues, because of the fact that Giles has left and Joyce has passed away. And she's got her sister to deal with. But I also think the adult responsibility of how you deal with sexuality and relationships." Among other things, Buffy and Spike's relationship will reach a turning point. "She's made a choice right now that is very adult, because she's in a relationship that is a lot more sexual and less romanticized. But there's also going to be a price to pay for that, because it's obviously not the healthiest situation. So she's dealing with something that I think only happens when you get out of that sort of dreamy, romantic teen-age period. And then, you know, obviously Xander facing marriage and the responsibility of being a husband. And then Willow dealing with how she deals with her power and addiction."
Even the three nerd villains are part of the season's overriding theme. "The trio are also a reflection of that, because they're trying to do anything to sort of shortcut having to do adult things, like get a job or go to school," Noxon said. "So really the whole thing is either about evading or accepting responsibility, which is sort of what the 20s are all about, baby! The faster you run, the worse it gets." She added, "I think you can expect that we're not going to play them totally for laughs for the rest of the season. Right now, they've been played mostly for comic relief, which I think is why people haven't felt them as really threatening. But things are definitely going to take a turn. It's not going to stay quite as comedic." Buffy airs on UPN Tuesdays at 8 p.m. ET/PT.
by EvilAnya » Fri Jan 18, 2002 3:14 pm
I do wonder what's going to happen to Warren though, he definitely comes across as the one of the trio with real "big bad potential".
by darvangi » Fri Jan 18, 2002 3:36 pm
Thanks for posting this, Dr. G.
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by xita » Sat Jan 19, 2002 12:20 pm
UPN should consider slapping a TV-MA rating on Buffy the vampire slayer, and quickly. First, Willow got a not-sosubtle rise out of her lesbian lover, Tara, in the musical episode, and a recent sex scene between Spike and Buffy was so hot, the net was forced to insert computerized images over the nudity. Whats with the explicitness? "Maybe theres some smal psychological factor, like 'lets see what the new dad will say'", says Exec Producer Marti Noxon of UPN. "Truthfully, the characters are getting a little older and we're now doing things that were not permisible when they were teens. The whole premis is that many of us when we were in our 20's had relationships where we didn't know what we liked about them except that the sex was so amazing." Although the show is surprising the hellmouth out of fans with lurid sex scenes, ratings have yet to surge. After a ratings spike upon the show's UPN debut, Buffy settled back into its WB averages (an anemic 9 share in viewers 12-34). "We could do an all-naked Buffy and still get a a 7 share," admits Noxon. "Its so elaborate in its mythology, I just dont know how easy it would be for new fans to catch up." WEll, partially nude shots of Gellar and Marsters wont hurt.
by darvangi » Sat Jan 19, 2002 7:21 pm
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WEll, partially nude shots of Gellar and Marsters wont hurt.
Please - no more nude Spike until James gains some weight. He's a great actor, but I look at his tiny shirtless torso and I just want to see him eat something. It's enough to make a man pine longingly for beefy Riley.
quote:by Dr.G » Sun Jan 20, 2002 3:20 am
quote:"We could do an all-naked Buffy and still get a a 7 share," admits Noxon.
Just don't forget about the all-gay part.
by xita » Sun Jan 20, 2002 9:57 pm
From AZ Republic TV supplement.
"Buffy" honcho says loves help define heroine
By Kate O'Hara
The hardest character to write is the hero.
"She can change" says Buffy the Vampire slayer executive producer
Marti Noxon,. But she can't change much.
"You find ways to make them sympathetic and dramatic".but in a way
the other characters really are there to inform her and reflect her."
In Buffy's (Sarah Michelle Gellar's) life so far, she has had three
major romantic relationships; with tortured vampire-with-a-soul Angel
(David Boreanaz); with stand-up soldier boy Riley(Marc Blucas); and a
love-hate liaison with vampire Spike (James Marsters).
Introduced in Season Two, as part of a duo with vampire Drusilla
(Juliet Landau), Spike functioned as a foil for Angel and a witty foe
for Buffy. He was added as a regular in Season Four: Rendered
harmless by a government-implanted microchip in his brain, he threw
in with Buffy, trading information for protection.
Through Season Five and Six, the puppyish devotion he once had for
Drusilla has been transferred to Buffy.
Spike's affection for Buffy might seem bizarre for a soulless
vampire, but for the foundation established by his relationship with
Drusilla and by a revelation that he was a lovelorn poet in life.
"Yeah," Noxon says, "he's a puppy. . He was a softy in life. Once
He's devoted, he's really devoted."
"The thing that is also part of his nature now is that he's devoted
for all the wrong kinds of things. Part of the reason he's attracted
to Buffy is because she gives him such a good pain."
Also once in Buffy's thrall was Angel.
"I think of Angel as a masculine icon, an ideal," Noxon says. "On our
show, he was reflective of a pre-adolescent, romantic fantasy.
"Spike is much more about the real kind of relationships we delve
into when we're at college age, the really-working-our-stuff-out kind
of relationships. It seems to me that so many people at that age
choose relationships that are doomed to fail, but also, somehow, they
work some of their demons out.
"To me Spike is more real. It was wonderful and fun to write a lot of
the Buffy-Angel stuff, because it was just complete fantasy. . To me,
that's a very young girl's ideal man. Then later, as women get older,
it seems like they often pick the bad boys."
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by AutumnT* » Wed Jan 23, 2002 11:20 am
You know, I found this article insulting in comparing that scene from Once More With Feeling which was all sly implication to the Buffy/Spike skin fest. Buffy's hetero characters have always been involved in sexual scenes. Let's not forget the boink fest episode with Riley. It just rubbed me the wrong way that they say that scene between Willow and Tara deserves a MA rating when so many others did not seem to warrant it.
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About the EW article...You know, I found this article insulting in comparing that scene from Once More With Feeling which was all sly implication to the Buffy/Spike skin fest. Buffy's hetero characters have always been involved in sexual scenes. Let's not forget the boink fest episode with Riley. It just rubbed me the wrong way that they say that scene between Willow and Tara deserves a MA rating when so many others did not seem to warrant it.
I totally agree with you autumn..besides the willow and tara scene was all left to imagination....I mean I love the fact that they concemated Willow and Taras relationship and we got to see it YAY!
Heres comes the big butttttt though..... But they didnt even kiss!!! How many of us "NONVIRGINS" don't kiss before, during, or after making love?
So how realistic was this romantic consemation of Willow and Tara they showed us? Not to be all second gradish or anything but Buffy and spike got to kiss! Besides that when they shot amber benson/ Tara rising off the bed.....ummm out of my own personal experience we should have at least been able to see the movement of willows head under the dress.
I mean their lovemaking scene wouldnt even be considered late night skinemax soft core porn. And they wanna slap an MA censorship on it?
Dawn got better smoochies in the Halloween episode!!!! Shes what 15?
So C'mon people you knoe the slap the musical with an MA rating is in some ways just homophobia.........
SO all I have to say is when willow and tara get back together..( I may be in denial here ) They better get real smoochies...like THE BODY smoochies allthough not in a pending death situation sort of way. Maybe an all gay all nakie episode.....or two.
But I still loved the musical!! Cheezy love scene or not IT ROCKED!!! That might be the cookies talkin but it rocked!
NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF LOVE!!!!!!
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BabyWillow81: Danni look at this picture . Did You ever notice Amber benson hardly ever wears shoes? I mean they even protrayed her sholess in a scenes in the comic wanna blessed be....
Starrgazr9: ambers a "shoelessphine".
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BabyWillow81: Hmmm Amber, mandy.....you in shower sandals....I must have a thing for "shoelessphines". LOL
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I don't think the article was serious about Buffy needing an MA rating; I think they were just trying to make with the funny over how steamy the show has gotten this season. I choose to interpret their mention of the floating-O as a positive one, like "look how cool the show has gotten...they finally show a very intimate W/T love act that is implied rather than just metaphorical". They might be guilty of bad taste in their attempt at humor, but I don't think they were dis'ing W/T. (Also note that they seemed to be discussing a progression of steaminess starting with the relatively-tame floating-O and ending with the rather graphic B/S shagging.)
And putting an MA rating on it isn't exactly censorship; it would merely be done as a reflection of the content level of the show (which I don't believe exceeds PG14 even with the floating-O, or with more W/T snuggling than they've shown; the B/S "shagging" scene in Wrecked gets close though, even for those of us who don't mind such things). The censorship is done by those (parents) who consider that level of content inappropriate (for their children), or by those (network censors) who are trying to keep the show from exceeding a PG14 rating and choose to keep certain things out (such as the WB wanting to cut the Kiss, but fortunately Joss put his foot down and insisted on it in The Body; and supposedly when they saw the final scene the network agreed it was appropriate--which of course it was, entirely).
BTW, when the mods close a redundant thread and link it to a spoilery thread, it would help for that to be noted (such as the thread title you're sending us to, not just "here"), especially when the other thread was not itself very spoilery.
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BabyWillow81: Danni look at this picture . Did You ever notice Amber benson hardly ever wears shoes? I mean they even protrayed her sholess in a scenes in the comic wanna blessed be....Starrgazr9: ambers a "shoelessphine".
LOLBabyWillow81: Hmmm Amber, mandy.....you in shower sandals....I must have a thing for "shoelessphines". LOL
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A few years ago, an episode of 'The X-Files' got a TV-MA rating for an episode involving a decapitation in the pre-credits sequence, but on further airings, it only merited a TV-14.
For our non-US fans, these ratings were added in January, 1997 for exploitation of the dreaded V-Chip, a device built into all televisions that let's (ahem!) 'repsonsible parents' block out viewing of all material at the selected level. The ratings are as follows:
TV-Y: Appropriate for all children, and designed for children.
TV-Y7: Children 7 and above, and designed for children.
TV-G: General Audiences, not specifically for children, but nothing objectionable.
TV-PG: Parental Guidance. May contain some material parents would find unsuitable for younger children.
TV-14: Parents strongly cautioned. May contain material parents would find unsuitable for children under 14.
TV-MA: Mature audiences only. May contain the following- mature themes, profane language, graphic violence and explicit sexual conduct.
Amusingly, only about 20% of parents in this country even know what the ratings all mean, let alone actually use them to monitor their children's viewing habits.
Oh, the fun we have!
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P.s.- Oooh! I'm a Floating Rose! So I've made 25 posts in 10 days! Therefore, at this pace, I'll be a Lesbian/Gay-Type Lover in approximately 5 years. :-)
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Keeper of the kitten spirit that lies in us all
Keeper of the fluffy pink rhinos (don't ask)
The 100th Light for Tara
Bardlet #15 (thanx Angie)
President of Guys Who Love Willow & Tara Fan Club
"Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand."
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First, the question everyone has been asking: If Buffy died, why was there no new Slayer?
That's actually pretty easy. When Buffy died the first time, a slayer was called, and that lineage is still intact. Faith is still alive. So, Faithie and Buffy need to die for another slayer to be called.
Speaking of Buffy expats, any plans for Seth Green or Eliza Dushku to come back?
Yeah, there's always talk about it. And when those people are available, we'd love to have them back. But they have not been available. Seth's all Greg the Bunny now--and many other things.
The largest rumor floating around this season has been that there will be a big death on the finale. True?
That was the same rumor last year--and, you know, somebody did die. I mean, there's always going to be a big death eventually.
How long are the actors under contract?
All of the main cast members are contracted through next season--season seven.
What about Amber Benson (Tara)?
She's contracted for 16 out of 22 episodes this season, just as she was last season. And all that means is she won't be in six of the episodes.
Buffy has become much darker and racier this season. Is that because it's on UPN?
It's not really a result of switching networks. Perhaps there was some impulse to be a little bolder because we thought we might get away with it, but the reality is the WB was never very restrictive on what we put on the air. I really think it's more a result of the growing up of the show. And the fact that the whole Spike and Buffy storyline just lends itself to kind of a darker, edgier and more sexual bent.
Will this darker side continue?
The whole season is definitely influenced by the Buffy and Spike storyline. That can't help but affect the way the rest of the stuff goes.
We just had another round of Golden Globes. And, once again, Buffy was completely overlooked. What is the deal with those awards-show voters?
There's always a vague, dim hope that you'll get invited to the party. But the truth of the matter is, I think that moment has passed for us. I think if it were going to happen, it would have happened by now. But the fact that it hasn't doesn't feel like it has to do with the quality of the show. It has to do with perception and the fact that voters for the Globes and Emmys are older. They don't quite get it. It's a generational thing.
Why the Buffy and Spike relationship?
Long ago, it was Joss' idea that Spike would start to get a crush on Buffy. We had no idea where we would go with that at the time. It was just like, "Doesn't it seem like he'd become obsessed with a woman who could beat him up so badly?" Spike has always been drawn to women who abuse him. So now, with Buffy, this is the ultimate. But once he got the chip, he started to develop scruples, against his will. I think he genuinely cares for her and cares for her goodness. At this point, that means something to him.
Why can't Buffy fully love him?
Because he's evil! Even though he has come a long way, I still wonder what would happen with that chip out of his head. He's not someone you should fully trust. And given that, how could she ever fully give herself to him? It's not like Angel, who has spent 300 years atoning.
How far will it go?
At the end of last season, we started asking ourselves, "What are we going to do with these guys?" We also started thinking about what relationships were like in our twenties, when we were all in college. And it seems like so often you pick the person who is not necessarily the one you are going to be with the rest of your life, but the person who causes you a lot of grief and a lot of drama--and a lot of lust.
Have we seen the end of Buffy-Angel crossovers?
It's unlikely that we'll see crossovers, at least for right now. Things would have to change pretty radically for us to be able to do that. Just 'cause, you know, different networks.
Are we going to get a CD of the musical episode?
There is a CD in the works. That is definitely going to happen, but I don't know about the timing.
Will there be a Big Bad this season?
There is Big Badness. It's not the same as it has been in the past. It's somewhat more generated by our own characters. With the guys--the trio--there's potential for things to go a lot darker there. But no, there is no supernatural being coming from on high. It was just time to try something else. I mean, how many Apocali can you threaten? It's like, "No, really. It's the end of the world. This time, really. We were kidding last time!"
Have we seen the worst of Willow's bad side?
Almost every character deals with this notion of power, what it means to attain power and that, in some ways, power always corrupts. As much as Willow has grown and changed--personally, I can attest to the fact that the inner nerd is always there. No matter how much you change, there's always going to be some insecurity. And the temptation to empower yourself, maybe beyond reason, is really there...So, that will cause Willow the temptation to embellish herself.
Well, there you have it. Got more Buffy questions? Then join me for our next chat, this Monday at 6 p.m. ET/3 p.m. PT. I'll also dish on all the usual faves, like Sex and the City and ER.
And don't forget--by entering the chat, you will automatically be entered into the sweepstakes to win a Buffy the Vampire Slayer prize pack, including the first-season DVD, a script book and a Buffy collectible car. For the full lowdown, click here.
Or, if you simply can't wait to get your hands on the DVD or other Slayer swag, you can always buy it here: www.foxstore.com.
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Nothing too revelatory... but interesting nonetheless...
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The latest news about ''Buffy'' -- Producer Marti Noxon talks about going to DVD, Sarah Michelle Gellar's new 'do, and storylines you'll never see by Liane Bonin
A vampire slayer gets no respect, so why should her fans? DVDs of ''Buffy the Vampire Slayer'' have been available in Europe and Australia for years (VHS versions of season five are already on sale in the UK), yet America's slayer buffs had to wait until last week for season one to make its DVD debut. Not that they weren't thrilled, but why the delay? A spokesman at 20th Century Fox TV (the studio behind the UPN hit) cryptically blames ''different release patterns'' for the delay.
That's not much in the way of consolation -- then again, even ''Buffy'''s creators can't score DVDs. ''They don't send us copies,'' laughs executive producer Marti Noxon. ''And we have a pretty limited say as far as what episodes are released and when.'' Luckily, Noxon has plenty of say about everything else. She talked to EW.com about discarded storylines, steamy sex, and the new series that may one day fill ''Buffy'''s high heels.
Now that the first season is out on DVD, can you tell us about storylines that never made the cut?
Actually, there were a lot of things we were going to do and never did. More recently, in season four, Maggie (Lindsay Crouse) was going to be much more of a mother figure for Riley, introducing him to another girl to lure him away from Buffy. We thought it would create some Shakespearean jealousy, and then we went, ehhh, forget it. But most of the changes [throughout the series] have had to do with actors coming and going. We had a lot more planned for Seth Green (Oz), for example, but his departure [to do films] opened the door for Tara (Amber Benson), which was something we never expected. And there would have been far more Angel-Buffy angst if he hadn't gotten his own show.
Speaking of Angel and Buffy, will there ever be another crossover? If David E. Kelly can jump networks [''Ally McBeal'' and ''The Practice''], why can't you?
It's not gonna happen, and it's not only a contractual issue. Even if it boosted our ratings for one night, viewers might say, ''Hey, what about that Angel guy? I wonder what he's up to on that other network?'' which would be a problem for UPN. I don't think there's any bad blood, but I also don't think either UPN or the WB are looking to do each other a favor.
Was Sarah Michelle Gellar's haircut really a big deal?
No, not really. She came to us and said she wanted to do it, and we were fine with that. It's not like our audience is completely attached to the hair. And I like it. I think it makes her look kinda kicky.
This has to be the raciest season of ''Buffy'' yet. How are you getting away with Spike and Buffy's more explicit moments, including allusions to oral sex?
You can't get around the fact that the ideas are really nasty, but the actual content hasn't been. We've had less nudity this year than last, except for Spike, but no one's complaining about that. It's just because the nature of Buffy's relationship with Spike is much more sexual than her past relationships, and it's not about cuddly sex, either. I think the censors understand that if you're a kid of a certain age, you're not going to get it. And if you're old enough to get it, then, well, you get it. But I'm sure we have some challenges ahead, because it's not going to get less sexy for a while.
What can you tell us about ''Buffy'' creator Joss Whedon's new Fox series, ''Firefly''?
It's basically a science fiction western. The show takes place in the wake of a universal civil war in which the government wanted to unite all of the planets into one federation. The government won, so the guys on our ship, who fought for independence, are cruising the periphery of the universe where some of the planets still haven't been reached by the government. They aren't heroes; they do a lot of salvage work and odd jobs, some of which aren't so legal. But it's not like most sci-fi shows where everything's in black and white. The government isn't all bad, but they do some bad stuff. There's a cool ship and there's going to be nifty hardware, but the goal is to make all the characters' emotional lives totally real. We're focusing on their struggles, not a guy with a gorgon on his templok or something.
So Joss has ''Buffy,'' ''Angel,'' ''Firefly,'' an animated version of ''Buffy,'' and the BBC ''Buffy'' spin-off ''Ripper'' on his plate. When does his head explode?
He doesn't need the same things other humans need, like rest or bad television, damn him. And the thing is, there's another show in the offing that he and I and ''Angel'' producer David Greenwalt are planning for next season. But it's possible that ''Ripper'' might be delayed because of ''Firefly.''
There's a rumor going around that another one of the main characters on ''Buffy'' is going to die. How do you deal with leaks?
I can't comment on the rumor. We used to get really upset and send out fake spoilers so people would be confused, and we still do, sometimes, but we can't plug all the holes. We try not to pay too much attention, because it just makes you crazy.
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I was joking with a friend that one day we'll be doing Xander versus the love handles monster. Let us stop before it gets lame! If key members don't want to continue we won't. Every year we think, this could be it, but every year we continue to feel enthused about it, and it just keeps going.
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By IAN SPELLING
What’s stranger than demons on motorcycles? Or vampires with souls? Or teenaged vampire slayers? How about the prospect of a 10-minute interview with the guy who created the demons, vampires and slayers in question? A chat with Joss Whedon is not, in and of itself, strange; rather, it’s the 10-minute restriction that’s unusual. Whedon, you see, is a great talker--funny, frank and enthusiastic. Get him started on a subject he likes, and he’s off. Get him talking about BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER, ANGEL, the BUFFY first-season DVD collection, the upcoming animated BUFFY series and the forthcoming Giles miniseries, and 10 minutes of scheduled talk time…well, let’s just say the interview ran over a bit.
The main topic of the day is the BUFFY DVD package. Due for release January 15 from Fox Home Entertainment, the three-disc collection includes all 12 first-season episodes, along with Whedon commentary on three of them, assorted interviews, scripts, photos, trailers and bios, all for the low suggested retail price of $39.98. “I’m probably happiest to see ‘The Puppet Show’ on DVD, because it has the entire, only-broadcast-once scene from OEDIPUS REX that we did at the end,” Whedon notes. “That was the only time that the WB let us run the show over by a little bit [into the credits sequence]. I was very happy to get that in there. ‘Prophecy Girl’ and ‘The Pack’ are a couple of others I’m glad people can see on DVD. ‘The Pack’ took the series to a new level. That’s when we realized, ‘Hey, we can get really dark and ugly with this show.’ That was cool.
“Every one of those first-season episodes was an extremely tortuous process,” he continues. “I had never done it before. I had a staff of really smart people, but nobody really knew the show yet except for [co-executive producer] David Greenwalt and me. The ‘Witch’ episode was a big deal for us because it was David who came up with the big twist. And the moment he said it, the hair on the back of my neck stood up. It was so creepy and real and I said, ‘That’s what this show is.’ So every one of those first round of shows has some moment of discovery. Plus, I was getting to know just how good my cast was. So, for me, it’s 12 hours of insane fun.”
Sitting in a studio years after the fact in order to screen episodes and record his thoughts about them was, Whedon acknowledges, an unusual exercise. “I did interviews about a lot of them, but the actual commentary just on ‘Welcome to the Hellmouth,’ ‘Harvest’ and ‘Prophecy Girl,’ ” he explains. “It was weird to do the commentaries, because you effectively go back and cringe. There were times where I’d sit there and think, ‘Oh, I’d change this. I’d change that.’ But I also thought, ‘Hey, a lot of this is pretty cool! I’d watch this show.’ It was great to realize that, even early on, even though the show has matured, we had a mission statement right up front. We understood that mission statement and stuck to it, and it was kind of nice to see that.”
It should be interesting for Whedon when he eventually sits down to offer up commentary on current episodes of BUFFY, since he’s pulled back a bit from his day-to-day responsibilities on the series. Longtime co-producer Marti Noxon essentially runs the show now and shares co-executive producer credit with Whedon. The creator, however, participates in the storybreaking sessions for each hour and, most notably, wrote and directed season six’s highpoint thus far: “Once More, With Feeling.” Anyone who feared that the musical episode would be nothing more than a stunt was quickly proved wrong, as every song served to further the storyline.
“That was the happiest experience of my short and tawdry life,” Whedon says. “It was the most work I’ve ever done, the hardest I’ve ever seen my cast and my crew work. We put it together at the end of the day and everybody seemed to feel it worked. You know, I got to make a musical in my lifetime--not many people can say that. So I’m just about as happy with that episode as I’ve ever been about anything.”
Then there’s ANGEL to consider. Despite his falling out with the WB over BUFFY (which now airs on UPN), Whedon remains nearly as involved with ANGEL as he is with that series. And he’s currently gearing up to write and direct an ANGEL episode, one that may have something to do with Angel’s (David Boreanaz) little bundle of joy, Connor. That the show is doing well--very well, in fact--without a lead-in from its progenitor doesn’t exactly surprise Whedon. “I expected that it would do OK,” he says. “I always believed that it was its own show. I like it and love it in different ways than I like and love BUFFY. So I’m not surprised to see it doing well. The people at the WB seem happy, so I’m like, ‘Oh good.’ To me, ANGEL has a very different feel. It’s not just another version of BUFFY, even though both shows are part of the same aesthetic and mythology.”
Whedon will soon enter another aesthetic and mythology, as he’s currently putting much of his energy into the upcoming Fox series FIREFLY. A sci-fi adventure that’ll be more about humans than aliens, FIREFLY will debut next fall with a two-hour pilot written, produced and directed by Whedon, with Fox committed to 13 episodes. In the meantime, though, Whedon is very much involved in two BUFFY-related projects, namely BUFFY: THE ANIMATED SERIES and RIPPER, the proposed British miniseries devoted to the trials and tribulations of Giles (Anthony Stewart Head), Buffy’s beloved Watcher.
“The animated show is going along slowly,” Whedon says. “It’s kind of like the soundtracks [for BUFFY the series and the “Once More, With Feeling” episode] and the DVDs in that it’s taking a long time to come together. Most of the actors from the show will be doing their voices, which is really fun. We’ve got everybody except Sarah [Michelle Gellar]. Her schedule is just too insane, so she’s not going to do it. We’ll find a similar voice for the Buffy character. Quite frankly, it can be done. A lot of voices can be mimicked, but there are certain cast members, like Alyson [Hannigan, who plays Willow], where I couldn’t hear anybody else doing it. In a way, the character actors are the most important part of something like that. So we’ll have the whole ensemble save Sarah, and we don’t know about David [Boreanaz] yet. Sarah and David are working on their shows more than anyone else and are probably not as anxious to play their characters in their spare time, whereas the rest of us still get a kick out of it.
“We’ve got scripts from the [live-action] show’s actual writing staff, so they’re feeling really strong, funny and exciting. It’s BUFFY, year one, all the stories in between the episodes on the DVD, pretty much. That’s fun for us. I loved the first-season stories, and when they graduated from high school I was rather sad. I was like, ‘But I still have more high-school stories to tell! Why are they graduating?’ Now we get to go back and tell them. The stories for the animated show will be a little simpler and more emotionally direct. The [live-action] series is more complex. Also, the animated version will be a little sillier. It should be on the air next fall. We’re ready now, but it’s a matter at this point of dealing with big corporations. Networks are changing hands, so there is all sorts of confusion. But we’re doing our part.
“The BBC show with Giles is on a slower track,” he continues. “I did just get off the phone with one of the producers on it, and we were talking about shaping it and feeling it out when we have time to get over to England and start putting it up.”
Before the conversation ends, one more potential project must be addressed: There has once again been buzz amongst the BUFFY faithful that Whedon plans to take a stab at another feature version, and this time it’s a bit louder than usual. “I’ve heard stories about a BUFFY movie since year one,” Whedon offers. “You’ll hear them many years from now as well. BUFFY movies depend on when we finish the show. We’ll never do one while the series is on the air. If, when we finish the show, we all feel like hanging out some more, then maybe we’ll do one. And if we don’t, we won’t. BUFFY would make a great movie. I love this cast and they’d all be great in a feature. I’d love to see it happen, but it’s a while off even if it does."
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"Everthing's just turning out so dark..."
"No, it's okay. Lost is good. Willow and I always know how to find each other!"
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Marsters praised "Buffy" for tackling the nation's drug-addiction problem through the metaphor of Willow (Alyson Hannigan) being addicted to witchcraft. Willow is slowly recovering, with help from her friends.
"Not all TV shows are talking about it," Marsters said.
He also praised the show for its normal depiction of a lesbian relationship, the one between Willow and fellow witch Tara (Amber Benson).
"The Tara relationship, so controversial in the beginning, has been integrated so organically. It's a gay relationship that not's about being gay, that's not about having the first gay kiss. I don't know a precedent for it."
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I have the sudden urge to dedicate my productive cooperation.
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I don't think it makes me a bad guy. I just make the wrong choice. I just don't know any better. I see everybody so happy and getting what they want all of the time, and it comes so difficult for me. So if I can just be in control and boss them around and call myself this evil genius, it's a nice way to explain to myself and everyone else why I'm not a part of what's going on. Because I choose not to be. Because I'm above it. Because I'm an evil genius.
Hmmm. So Warren is that way because he chooses to be? Ugh. That makes me hate him even more.
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IP: LoggedMoKa*unregistered posted January 23, 2002 13:20*reposted by WillTara
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posted January 23, 2002 13:20 Okay, UK viewer here...thought I knew all the US ratings but can't say I've come across an MA before.. fill me in folks?*reposted by WillTara
IP: LoggedTyRex316*unregistered posted January 23, 2002 13:21*reposted by WillTara
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posted January 23, 2002 13:21 MA means basically for mature audiences/ adults. Something in the program like partial nudity,language, or violence makes the show 'unsuitable' for younger people.*reposted by WillTara
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Originally posted by AutumnT*:
About the EW article...You know, I found this article insulting in comparing that scene from Once More With Feeling which was all sly implication to the Buffy/Spike skin fest. Buffy's hetero characters have always been involved in sexual scenes. Let's not forget the boink fest episode with Riley. It just rubbed me the wrong way that they say that scene between Willow and Tara deserves a MA rating when so many others did not seem to warrant it.
I totally agree with you autumn..besides the willow and tara scene was all left to imagination....I mean I love the fact that they concemated Willow and Taras relationship and we got to see it YAY!
Heres comes the big butttttt though..... But they didnt even kiss!!! How many of us "NONVIRGINS" don't kiss before, during, or after making love?
So how realistic was this romantic consemation of Willow and Tara they showed us? Not to be all second gradish or anything but Buffy and spike got to kiss! Besides that when they shot amber benson/ Tara rising off the bed.....ummm out of my own personal experience we should have at least been able to see the movement of willows head under the dress.
I mean their lovemaking scene wouldnt even be considered late night skinemax soft core porn. And they wanna slap an MA censorship on it?
Dawn got better smoochies in the Halloween episode!!!! Shes what 15?
So C'mon people you knoe the slap the musical with an MA rating is in some ways just homophobia.........
SO all I have to say is when willow and tara get back together..( I may be in denial here ) They better get real smoochies...like THE BODY smoochies allthough not in a pending death situation sort of way. Maybe an all gay all nakie episode.....or two.
But I still loved the musical!! Cheezy love scene or not IT ROCKED!!! That might be the cookies talkin but it rocked!
NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF LOVE!!!!!!
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BabyWillow81: Danni look at this picture . Did You ever notice Amber benson hardly ever wears shoes? I mean they even protrayed her sholess in a scenes in the comic wanna blessed be....
Starrgazr9: ambers a "shoelessphine".
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BabyWillow81: Hmmm Amber, mandy.....you in shower sandals....I must have a thing for "shoelessphines". LOL
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posted January 23, 2002 13:57quote:
Originally posted by AutumnT*:
About the EW article...You know, I found this article insulting in comparing that scene from Once More With Feeling which was all sly implication to the Buffy/Spike skin fest. Buffy's hetero characters have always been involved in sexual scenes. Let's not forget the boink fest episode with Riley. It just rubbed me the wrong way that they say that scene between Willow and Tara deserves a MA rating when so many others did not seem to warrant it.
I totally agree with you autumn..besides the willow and tara scene was all left to imagination....I mean I love the fact that they concemated Willow and Taras relationship and we got to see it YAY!
Heres comes the big butttttt though..... But they didnt even kiss!!! How many of us "NONVIRGINS" don't kiss before, during, or after making love?
So how realistic was this romantic consemation of Willow and Tara they showed us? Not to be all second gradish or anything but Buffy and spike got to kiss! Besides that when they shot amber benson/ Tara rising off the bed.....ummm out of my own personal experience we should have at least been able to see the movement of willows head under the dress.
I mean their lovemaking scene wouldnt even be considered late night skinemax soft core porn. And they wanna slap an MA censorship on it?
Dawn got better smoochies in the Halloween episode!!!! Shes what 15?
So C'mon people you knoe the slap the musical with an MA rating is in some ways just homophobia.........
SO all I have to say is when willow and tara get back together..( I may be in denial here ) They better get real smoochies...like THE BODY smoochies allthough not in a pending death situation sort of way. Maybe an all gay all nakie episode.....or two.
But I still loved the musical!! Cheezy love scene or not IT ROCKED!!! That might be the cookies talkin but it rocked!
NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF LOVE!!!!!!
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BabyWillow81: Danni look at this picture . Did You ever notice Amber benson hardly ever wears shoes? I mean they even protrayed her sholess in a scenes in the comic wanna blessed be....
Starrgazr9: ambers a "shoelessphine".
LOL
BabyWillow81: Hmmm Amber, mandy.....you in shower sandals....I must have a thing for "shoelessphines". LOL
quote:IP: LoggedCipherCool Monster Fighter I don't think the article was serious about Buffy needing an MA rating; I think they were just trying to make with the funny over how steamy the show has gotten this season. I choose to interpret their mention of the floating-O as a positive one, like "look how cool the show has gotten...they finally show a very intimate W/T love act that is implied rather than just metaphorical". They might be guilty of bad taste in their attempt at humor, but I don't think they were dis'ing W/T. (Also note that they seemed to be discussing a progression of steaminess starting with the relatively-tame floating-O and ending with the rather graphic B/S shagging.)
And putting an MA rating on it isn't exactly censorship; it would merely be done as a reflection of the content level of the show (which I don't believe exceeds PG14 even with the floating-O, or with more W/T snuggling than they've shown; the B/S "shagging" scene in Wrecked gets close though, even for those of us who don't mind such things). The censorship is done by those (parents) who consider that level of content inappropriate (for their children), or by those (network censors) who are trying to keep the show from exceeding a PG14 rating and choose to keep certain things out (such as the WB wanting to cut the Kiss, but fortunately Joss put his foot down and insisted on it in The Body; and supposedly when they saw the final scene the network agreed it was appropriate--which of course it was, entirely).
BTW, when the mods close a redundant thread and link it to a spoilery thread, it would help for that to be noted (such as the thread title you're sending us to, not just "here"), especially when the other thread was not itself very spoilery.
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posted January 23, 2002 16:58 TV-MA is probably rarely seen unless you watch premium cable (HBO, etc), though South Park on Comedy Central is a non-premium example (and it really deserves that TV-MA rating). The broadcast networks mostly won't show stuff that'd require an MA rating (or do shows like NYPD Blue have that rating?).I don't think the article was serious about Buffy needing an MA rating; I think they were just trying to make with the funny over how steamy the show has gotten this season. I choose to interpret their mention of the floating-O as a positive one, like "look how cool the show has gotten...they finally show a very intimate W/T love act that is implied rather than just metaphorical". They might be guilty of bad taste in their attempt at humor, but I don't think they were dis'ing W/T. (Also note that they seemed to be discussing a progression of steaminess starting with the relatively-tame floating-O and ending with the rather graphic B/S shagging.)
And putting an MA rating on it isn't exactly censorship; it would merely be done as a reflection of the content level of the show (which I don't believe exceeds PG14 even with the floating-O, or with more W/T snuggling than they've shown; the B/S "shagging" scene in Wrecked gets close though, even for those of us who don't mind such things). The censorship is done by those (parents) who consider that level of content inappropriate (for their children), or by those (network censors) who are trying to keep the show from exceeding a PG14 rating and choose to keep certain things out (such as the WB wanting to cut the Kiss, but fortunately Joss put his foot down and insisted on it in The Body; and supposedly when they saw the final scene the network agreed it was appropriate--which of course it was, entirely).
BTW, when the mods close a redundant thread and link it to a spoilery thread, it would help for that to be noted (such as the thread title you're sending us to, not just "here"), especially when the other thread was not itself very spoilery.
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BabyWillow81: Danni look at this picture . Did You ever notice Amber benson hardly ever wears shoes? I mean they even protrayed her sholess in a scenes in the comic wanna blessed be....Starrgazr9: ambers a "shoelessphine".
LOLBabyWillow81: Hmmm Amber, mandy.....you in shower sandals....I must have a thing for "shoelessphines". LOL
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posted January 23, 2002 17:40 I miss all the good chats...
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BabyWillow81: Danni look at this picture . Did You ever notice Amber benson hardly ever wears shoes? I mean they even protrayed her sholess in a scenes in the comic wanna blessed be....Starrgazr9: ambers a "shoelessphine".
LOLBabyWillow81: Hmmm Amber, mandy.....you in shower sandals....I must have a thing for "shoelessphines". LOL
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quote:IP: LoggedEricAlan69Doll's Eye Crystal A few years ago, an episode of 'The X-Files' got a TV-MA rating for an episode involving a decapitation in the pre-credits sequence, but on further airings, it only merited a TV-14.
For our non-US fans, these ratings were added in January, 1997 for exploitation of the dreaded V-Chip, a device built into all televisions that let's (ahem!) 'repsonsible parents' block out viewing of all material at the selected level. The ratings are as follows:
TV-Y: Appropriate for all children, and designed for children.
TV-Y7: Children 7 and above, and designed for children.
TV-G: General Audiences, not specifically for children, but nothing objectionable.
TV-PG: Parental Guidance. May contain some material parents would find unsuitable for younger children.
TV-14: Parents strongly cautioned. May contain material parents would find unsuitable for children under 14.
TV-MA: Mature audiences only. May contain the following- mature themes, profane language, graphic violence and explicit sexual conduct.
Amusingly, only about 20% of parents in this country even know what the ratings all mean, let alone actually use them to monitor their children's viewing habits.
Oh, the fun we have!
love,
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P.s.- Oooh! I'm a Floating Rose! So I've made 25 posts in 10 days! Therefore, at this pace, I'll be a Lesbian/Gay-Type Lover in approximately 5 years. :-)
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posted January 23, 2002 17:42 Shows like 'NYPD Blue' get MA ratings only when there's an excessive amount of bad language, or when there's partial nudity. It'll also give a disclaimer before the particular episode stating what, precisely, will be 'adult' about the following episode. Most of the time, 'Blue' just gets a TV-14 rating.A few years ago, an episode of 'The X-Files' got a TV-MA rating for an episode involving a decapitation in the pre-credits sequence, but on further airings, it only merited a TV-14.
For our non-US fans, these ratings were added in January, 1997 for exploitation of the dreaded V-Chip, a device built into all televisions that let's (ahem!) 'repsonsible parents' block out viewing of all material at the selected level. The ratings are as follows:
TV-Y: Appropriate for all children, and designed for children.
TV-Y7: Children 7 and above, and designed for children.
TV-G: General Audiences, not specifically for children, but nothing objectionable.
TV-PG: Parental Guidance. May contain some material parents would find unsuitable for younger children.
TV-14: Parents strongly cautioned. May contain material parents would find unsuitable for children under 14.
TV-MA: Mature audiences only. May contain the following- mature themes, profane language, graphic violence and explicit sexual conduct.
Amusingly, only about 20% of parents in this country even know what the ratings all mean, let alone actually use them to monitor their children's viewing habits.
Oh, the fun we have!
love,
e.
P.s.- Oooh! I'm a Floating Rose! So I've made 25 posts in 10 days! Therefore, at this pace, I'll be a Lesbian/Gay-Type Lover in approximately 5 years. :-)
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Amberholic #1969
Keeper of the kitten spirit that lies in us all
Keeper of the fluffy pink rhinos (don't ask)
The 100th Light for Tara
Bardlet #15 (thanx Angie)
President of Guys Who Love Willow & Tara Fan Club
"Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand."
from 'Witch Hunt' by Rush
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Amberholic #1969
Keeper of the kitten spirit that lies in us all
Keeper of the fluffy pink rhinos (don't ask)
The 100th Light for Tara
Bardlet #15 (thanx Angie)
President of Guys Who Love Willow & Tara Fan Club
"Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand."
from 'Witch Hunt' by Rush
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posted January 24, 2002 02:28 hee hee, JJ i think many people would agree with you, I do need to curb my obsession IP: LoggedxitaMs. Moderator First, the question everyone has been asking: If Buffy died, why was there no new Slayer?
That's actually pretty easy. When Buffy died the first time, a slayer was called, and that lineage is still intact. Faith is still alive. So, Faithie and Buffy need to die for another slayer to be called.
Speaking of Buffy expats, any plans for Seth Green or Eliza Dushku to come back?
Yeah, there's always talk about it. And when those people are available, we'd love to have them back. But they have not been available. Seth's all Greg the Bunny now--and many other things.
The largest rumor floating around this season has been that there will be a big death on the finale. True?
That was the same rumor last year--and, you know, somebody did die. I mean, there's always going to be a big death eventually.
How long are the actors under contract?
All of the main cast members are contracted through next season--season seven.
What about Amber Benson (Tara)?
She's contracted for 16 out of 22 episodes this season, just as she was last season. And all that means is she won't be in six of the episodes.
Buffy has become much darker and racier this season. Is that because it's on UPN?
It's not really a result of switching networks. Perhaps there was some impulse to be a little bolder because we thought we might get away with it, but the reality is the WB was never very restrictive on what we put on the air. I really think it's more a result of the growing up of the show. And the fact that the whole Spike and Buffy storyline just lends itself to kind of a darker, edgier and more sexual bent.
Will this darker side continue?
The whole season is definitely influenced by the Buffy and Spike storyline. That can't help but affect the way the rest of the stuff goes.
We just had another round of Golden Globes. And, once again, Buffy was completely overlooked. What is the deal with those awards-show voters?
There's always a vague, dim hope that you'll get invited to the party. But the truth of the matter is, I think that moment has passed for us. I think if it were going to happen, it would have happened by now. But the fact that it hasn't doesn't feel like it has to do with the quality of the show. It has to do with perception and the fact that voters for the Globes and Emmys are older. They don't quite get it. It's a generational thing.
Why the Buffy and Spike relationship?
Long ago, it was Joss' idea that Spike would start to get a crush on Buffy. We had no idea where we would go with that at the time. It was just like, "Doesn't it seem like he'd become obsessed with a woman who could beat him up so badly?" Spike has always been drawn to women who abuse him. So now, with Buffy, this is the ultimate. But once he got the chip, he started to develop scruples, against his will. I think he genuinely cares for her and cares for her goodness. At this point, that means something to him.
Why can't Buffy fully love him?
Because he's evil! Even though he has come a long way, I still wonder what would happen with that chip out of his head. He's not someone you should fully trust. And given that, how could she ever fully give herself to him? It's not like Angel, who has spent 300 years atoning.
How far will it go?
At the end of last season, we started asking ourselves, "What are we going to do with these guys?" We also started thinking about what relationships were like in our twenties, when we were all in college. And it seems like so often you pick the person who is not necessarily the one you are going to be with the rest of your life, but the person who causes you a lot of grief and a lot of drama--and a lot of lust.
Have we seen the end of Buffy-Angel crossovers?
It's unlikely that we'll see crossovers, at least for right now. Things would have to change pretty radically for us to be able to do that. Just 'cause, you know, different networks.
Are we going to get a CD of the musical episode?
There is a CD in the works. That is definitely going to happen, but I don't know about the timing.
Will there be a Big Bad this season?
There is Big Badness. It's not the same as it has been in the past. It's somewhat more generated by our own characters. With the guys--the trio--there's potential for things to go a lot darker there. But no, there is no supernatural being coming from on high. It was just time to try something else. I mean, how many Apocali can you threaten? It's like, "No, really. It's the end of the world. This time, really. We were kidding last time!"
Have we seen the worst of Willow's bad side?
Almost every character deals with this notion of power, what it means to attain power and that, in some ways, power always corrupts. As much as Willow has grown and changed--personally, I can attest to the fact that the inner nerd is always there. No matter how much you change, there's always going to be some insecurity. And the temptation to empower yourself, maybe beyond reason, is really there...So, that will cause Willow the temptation to embellish herself.
Well, there you have it. Got more Buffy questions? Then join me for our next chat, this Monday at 6 p.m. ET/3 p.m. PT. I'll also dish on all the usual faves, like Sex and the City and ER.
And don't forget--by entering the chat, you will automatically be entered into the sweepstakes to win a Buffy the Vampire Slayer prize pack, including the first-season DVD, a script book and a Buffy collectible car. For the full lowdown, click here.
Or, if you simply can't wait to get your hands on the DVD or other Slayer swag, you can always buy it here: www.foxstore.com.
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posted January 24, 2002 22:34 Wanda has an interview with marti noxonFirst, the question everyone has been asking: If Buffy died, why was there no new Slayer?
That's actually pretty easy. When Buffy died the first time, a slayer was called, and that lineage is still intact. Faith is still alive. So, Faithie and Buffy need to die for another slayer to be called.
Speaking of Buffy expats, any plans for Seth Green or Eliza Dushku to come back?
Yeah, there's always talk about it. And when those people are available, we'd love to have them back. But they have not been available. Seth's all Greg the Bunny now--and many other things.
The largest rumor floating around this season has been that there will be a big death on the finale. True?
That was the same rumor last year--and, you know, somebody did die. I mean, there's always going to be a big death eventually.
How long are the actors under contract?
All of the main cast members are contracted through next season--season seven.
What about Amber Benson (Tara)?
She's contracted for 16 out of 22 episodes this season, just as she was last season. And all that means is she won't be in six of the episodes.
Buffy has become much darker and racier this season. Is that because it's on UPN?
It's not really a result of switching networks. Perhaps there was some impulse to be a little bolder because we thought we might get away with it, but the reality is the WB was never very restrictive on what we put on the air. I really think it's more a result of the growing up of the show. And the fact that the whole Spike and Buffy storyline just lends itself to kind of a darker, edgier and more sexual bent.
Will this darker side continue?
The whole season is definitely influenced by the Buffy and Spike storyline. That can't help but affect the way the rest of the stuff goes.
We just had another round of Golden Globes. And, once again, Buffy was completely overlooked. What is the deal with those awards-show voters?
There's always a vague, dim hope that you'll get invited to the party. But the truth of the matter is, I think that moment has passed for us. I think if it were going to happen, it would have happened by now. But the fact that it hasn't doesn't feel like it has to do with the quality of the show. It has to do with perception and the fact that voters for the Globes and Emmys are older. They don't quite get it. It's a generational thing.
Why the Buffy and Spike relationship?
Long ago, it was Joss' idea that Spike would start to get a crush on Buffy. We had no idea where we would go with that at the time. It was just like, "Doesn't it seem like he'd become obsessed with a woman who could beat him up so badly?" Spike has always been drawn to women who abuse him. So now, with Buffy, this is the ultimate. But once he got the chip, he started to develop scruples, against his will. I think he genuinely cares for her and cares for her goodness. At this point, that means something to him.
Why can't Buffy fully love him?
Because he's evil! Even though he has come a long way, I still wonder what would happen with that chip out of his head. He's not someone you should fully trust. And given that, how could she ever fully give herself to him? It's not like Angel, who has spent 300 years atoning.
How far will it go?
At the end of last season, we started asking ourselves, "What are we going to do with these guys?" We also started thinking about what relationships were like in our twenties, when we were all in college. And it seems like so often you pick the person who is not necessarily the one you are going to be with the rest of your life, but the person who causes you a lot of grief and a lot of drama--and a lot of lust.
Have we seen the end of Buffy-Angel crossovers?
It's unlikely that we'll see crossovers, at least for right now. Things would have to change pretty radically for us to be able to do that. Just 'cause, you know, different networks.
Are we going to get a CD of the musical episode?
There is a CD in the works. That is definitely going to happen, but I don't know about the timing.
Will there be a Big Bad this season?
There is Big Badness. It's not the same as it has been in the past. It's somewhat more generated by our own characters. With the guys--the trio--there's potential for things to go a lot darker there. But no, there is no supernatural being coming from on high. It was just time to try something else. I mean, how many Apocali can you threaten? It's like, "No, really. It's the end of the world. This time, really. We were kidding last time!"
Have we seen the worst of Willow's bad side?
Almost every character deals with this notion of power, what it means to attain power and that, in some ways, power always corrupts. As much as Willow has grown and changed--personally, I can attest to the fact that the inner nerd is always there. No matter how much you change, there's always going to be some insecurity. And the temptation to empower yourself, maybe beyond reason, is really there...So, that will cause Willow the temptation to embellish herself.
Well, there you have it. Got more Buffy questions? Then join me for our next chat, this Monday at 6 p.m. ET/3 p.m. PT. I'll also dish on all the usual faves, like Sex and the City and ER.
And don't forget--by entering the chat, you will automatically be entered into the sweepstakes to win a Buffy the Vampire Slayer prize pack, including the first-season DVD, a script book and a Buffy collectible car. For the full lowdown, click here.
Or, if you simply can't wait to get your hands on the DVD or other Slayer swag, you can always buy it here: www.foxstore.com.
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posted January 25, 2002 04:16 Well well, that Wanda, tssk, she finally found her way into this thread.[This message has been edited by Dr.G (edited January 25, 2002).]
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posted January 29, 2002 08:36 I don't know if this has been posted yet... and I don't know where it would have been, but there's an interview with Marti Noxon up at EWNothing too revelatory... but interesting nonetheless...
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The latest news about ''Buffy'' -- Producer Marti Noxon talks about going to DVD, Sarah Michelle Gellar's new 'do, and storylines you'll never see by Liane Bonin
A vampire slayer gets no respect, so why should her fans? DVDs of ''Buffy the Vampire Slayer'' have been available in Europe and Australia for years (VHS versions of season five are already on sale in the UK), yet America's slayer buffs had to wait until last week for season one to make its DVD debut. Not that they weren't thrilled, but why the delay? A spokesman at 20th Century Fox TV (the studio behind the UPN hit) cryptically blames ''different release patterns'' for the delay.
That's not much in the way of consolation -- then again, even ''Buffy'''s creators can't score DVDs. ''They don't send us copies,'' laughs executive producer Marti Noxon. ''And we have a pretty limited say as far as what episodes are released and when.'' Luckily, Noxon has plenty of say about everything else. She talked to EW.com about discarded storylines, steamy sex, and the new series that may one day fill ''Buffy'''s high heels.
Now that the first season is out on DVD, can you tell us about storylines that never made the cut?
Actually, there were a lot of things we were going to do and never did. More recently, in season four, Maggie (Lindsay Crouse) was going to be much more of a mother figure for Riley, introducing him to another girl to lure him away from Buffy. We thought it would create some Shakespearean jealousy, and then we went, ehhh, forget it. But most of the changes [throughout the series] have had to do with actors coming and going. We had a lot more planned for Seth Green (Oz), for example, but his departure [to do films] opened the door for Tara (Amber Benson), which was something we never expected. And there would have been far more Angel-Buffy angst if he hadn't gotten his own show.
Speaking of Angel and Buffy, will there ever be another crossover? If David E. Kelly can jump networks [''Ally McBeal'' and ''The Practice''], why can't you?
It's not gonna happen, and it's not only a contractual issue. Even if it boosted our ratings for one night, viewers might say, ''Hey, what about that Angel guy? I wonder what he's up to on that other network?'' which would be a problem for UPN. I don't think there's any bad blood, but I also don't think either UPN or the WB are looking to do each other a favor.
Was Sarah Michelle Gellar's haircut really a big deal?
No, not really. She came to us and said she wanted to do it, and we were fine with that. It's not like our audience is completely attached to the hair. And I like it. I think it makes her look kinda kicky.
This has to be the raciest season of ''Buffy'' yet. How are you getting away with Spike and Buffy's more explicit moments, including allusions to oral sex?
You can't get around the fact that the ideas are really nasty, but the actual content hasn't been. We've had less nudity this year than last, except for Spike, but no one's complaining about that. It's just because the nature of Buffy's relationship with Spike is much more sexual than her past relationships, and it's not about cuddly sex, either. I think the censors understand that if you're a kid of a certain age, you're not going to get it. And if you're old enough to get it, then, well, you get it. But I'm sure we have some challenges ahead, because it's not going to get less sexy for a while.
What can you tell us about ''Buffy'' creator Joss Whedon's new Fox series, ''Firefly''?
It's basically a science fiction western. The show takes place in the wake of a universal civil war in which the government wanted to unite all of the planets into one federation. The government won, so the guys on our ship, who fought for independence, are cruising the periphery of the universe where some of the planets still haven't been reached by the government. They aren't heroes; they do a lot of salvage work and odd jobs, some of which aren't so legal. But it's not like most sci-fi shows where everything's in black and white. The government isn't all bad, but they do some bad stuff. There's a cool ship and there's going to be nifty hardware, but the goal is to make all the characters' emotional lives totally real. We're focusing on their struggles, not a guy with a gorgon on his templok or something.
So Joss has ''Buffy,'' ''Angel,'' ''Firefly,'' an animated version of ''Buffy,'' and the BBC ''Buffy'' spin-off ''Ripper'' on his plate. When does his head explode?
He doesn't need the same things other humans need, like rest or bad television, damn him. And the thing is, there's another show in the offing that he and I and ''Angel'' producer David Greenwalt are planning for next season. But it's possible that ''Ripper'' might be delayed because of ''Firefly.''
There's a rumor going around that another one of the main characters on ''Buffy'' is going to die. How do you deal with leaks?
I can't comment on the rumor. We used to get really upset and send out fake spoilers so people would be confused, and we still do, sometimes, but we can't plug all the holes. We try not to pay too much attention, because it just makes you crazy.
Now that Buffy's in her 20s, do you see a series end in sight? [This message has been edited by Warduke (edited January 29, 2002).]
I was joking with a friend that one day we'll be doing Xander versus the love handles monster. Let us stop before it gets lame! If key members don't want to continue we won't. Every year we think, this could be it, but every year we continue to feel enthused about it, and it just keeps going.
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What’s stranger than demons on motorcycles? Or vampires with souls? Or teenaged vampire slayers? How about the prospect of a 10-minute interview with the guy who created the demons, vampires and slayers in question? A chat with Joss Whedon is not, in and of itself, strange; rather, it’s the 10-minute restriction that’s unusual. Whedon, you see, is a great talker--funny, frank and enthusiastic. Get him started on a subject he likes, and he’s off. Get him talking about BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER, ANGEL, the BUFFY first-season DVD collection, the upcoming animated BUFFY series and the forthcoming Giles miniseries, and 10 minutes of scheduled talk time…well, let’s just say the interview ran over a bit.
The main topic of the day is the BUFFY DVD package. Due for release January 15 from Fox Home Entertainment, the three-disc collection includes all 12 first-season episodes, along with Whedon commentary on three of them, assorted interviews, scripts, photos, trailers and bios, all for the low suggested retail price of $39.98. “I’m probably happiest to see ‘The Puppet Show’ on DVD, because it has the entire, only-broadcast-once scene from OEDIPUS REX that we did at the end,” Whedon notes. “That was the only time that the WB let us run the show over by a little bit [into the credits sequence]. I was very happy to get that in there. ‘Prophecy Girl’ and ‘The Pack’ are a couple of others I’m glad people can see on DVD. ‘The Pack’ took the series to a new level. That’s when we realized, ‘Hey, we can get really dark and ugly with this show.’ That was cool.
“Every one of those first-season episodes was an extremely tortuous process,” he continues. “I had never done it before. I had a staff of really smart people, but nobody really knew the show yet except for [co-executive producer] David Greenwalt and me. The ‘Witch’ episode was a big deal for us because it was David who came up with the big twist. And the moment he said it, the hair on the back of my neck stood up. It was so creepy and real and I said, ‘That’s what this show is.’ So every one of those first round of shows has some moment of discovery. Plus, I was getting to know just how good my cast was. So, for me, it’s 12 hours of insane fun.”
Sitting in a studio years after the fact in order to screen episodes and record his thoughts about them was, Whedon acknowledges, an unusual exercise. “I did interviews about a lot of them, but the actual commentary just on ‘Welcome to the Hellmouth,’ ‘Harvest’ and ‘Prophecy Girl,’ ” he explains. “It was weird to do the commentaries, because you effectively go back and cringe. There were times where I’d sit there and think, ‘Oh, I’d change this. I’d change that.’ But I also thought, ‘Hey, a lot of this is pretty cool! I’d watch this show.’ It was great to realize that, even early on, even though the show has matured, we had a mission statement right up front. We understood that mission statement and stuck to it, and it was kind of nice to see that.”
It should be interesting for Whedon when he eventually sits down to offer up commentary on current episodes of BUFFY, since he’s pulled back a bit from his day-to-day responsibilities on the series. Longtime co-producer Marti Noxon essentially runs the show now and shares co-executive producer credit with Whedon. The creator, however, participates in the storybreaking sessions for each hour and, most notably, wrote and directed season six’s highpoint thus far: “Once More, With Feeling.” Anyone who feared that the musical episode would be nothing more than a stunt was quickly proved wrong, as every song served to further the storyline.
“That was the happiest experience of my short and tawdry life,” Whedon says. “It was the most work I’ve ever done, the hardest I’ve ever seen my cast and my crew work. We put it together at the end of the day and everybody seemed to feel it worked. You know, I got to make a musical in my lifetime--not many people can say that. So I’m just about as happy with that episode as I’ve ever been about anything.”
Then there’s ANGEL to consider. Despite his falling out with the WB over BUFFY (which now airs on UPN), Whedon remains nearly as involved with ANGEL as he is with that series. And he’s currently gearing up to write and direct an ANGEL episode, one that may have something to do with Angel’s (David Boreanaz) little bundle of joy, Connor. That the show is doing well--very well, in fact--without a lead-in from its progenitor doesn’t exactly surprise Whedon. “I expected that it would do OK,” he says. “I always believed that it was its own show. I like it and love it in different ways than I like and love BUFFY. So I’m not surprised to see it doing well. The people at the WB seem happy, so I’m like, ‘Oh good.’ To me, ANGEL has a very different feel. It’s not just another version of BUFFY, even though both shows are part of the same aesthetic and mythology.”
Whedon will soon enter another aesthetic and mythology, as he’s currently putting much of his energy into the upcoming Fox series FIREFLY. A sci-fi adventure that’ll be more about humans than aliens, FIREFLY will debut next fall with a two-hour pilot written, produced and directed by Whedon, with Fox committed to 13 episodes. In the meantime, though, Whedon is very much involved in two BUFFY-related projects, namely BUFFY: THE ANIMATED SERIES and RIPPER, the proposed British miniseries devoted to the trials and tribulations of Giles (Anthony Stewart Head), Buffy’s beloved Watcher.
“The animated show is going along slowly,” Whedon says. “It’s kind of like the soundtracks [for BUFFY the series and the “Once More, With Feeling” episode] and the DVDs in that it’s taking a long time to come together. Most of the actors from the show will be doing their voices, which is really fun. We’ve got everybody except Sarah [Michelle Gellar]. Her schedule is just too insane, so she’s not going to do it. We’ll find a similar voice for the Buffy character. Quite frankly, it can be done. A lot of voices can be mimicked, but there are certain cast members, like Alyson [Hannigan, who plays Willow], where I couldn’t hear anybody else doing it. In a way, the character actors are the most important part of something like that. So we’ll have the whole ensemble save Sarah, and we don’t know about David [Boreanaz] yet. Sarah and David are working on their shows more than anyone else and are probably not as anxious to play their characters in their spare time, whereas the rest of us still get a kick out of it.
“We’ve got scripts from the [live-action] show’s actual writing staff, so they’re feeling really strong, funny and exciting. It’s BUFFY, year one, all the stories in between the episodes on the DVD, pretty much. That’s fun for us. I loved the first-season stories, and when they graduated from high school I was rather sad. I was like, ‘But I still have more high-school stories to tell! Why are they graduating?’ Now we get to go back and tell them. The stories for the animated show will be a little simpler and more emotionally direct. The [live-action] series is more complex. Also, the animated version will be a little sillier. It should be on the air next fall. We’re ready now, but it’s a matter at this point of dealing with big corporations. Networks are changing hands, so there is all sorts of confusion. But we’re doing our part.
“The BBC show with Giles is on a slower track,” he continues. “I did just get off the phone with one of the producers on it, and we were talking about shaping it and feeling it out when we have time to get over to England and start putting it up.”
Before the conversation ends, one more potential project must be addressed: There has once again been buzz amongst the BUFFY faithful that Whedon plans to take a stab at another feature version, and this time it’s a bit louder than usual. “I’ve heard stories about a BUFFY movie since year one,” Whedon offers. “You’ll hear them many years from now as well. BUFFY movies depend on when we finish the show. We’ll never do one while the series is on the air. If, when we finish the show, we all feel like hanging out some more, then maybe we’ll do one. And if we don’t, we won’t. BUFFY would make a great movie. I love this cast and they’d all be great in a feature. I’d love to see it happen, but it’s a while off even if it does."
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Marsters praised "Buffy" for tackling the nation's drug-addiction problem through the metaphor of Willow (Alyson Hannigan) being addicted to witchcraft. Willow is slowly recovering, with help from her friends.
"Not all TV shows are talking about it," Marsters said.
He also praised the show for its normal depiction of a lesbian relationship, the one between Willow and fellow witch Tara (Amber Benson).
"The Tara relationship, so controversial in the beginning, has been integrated so organically. It's a gay relationship that not's about being gay, that's not about having the first gay kiss. I don't know a precedent for it."
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I don't think it makes me a bad guy. I just make the wrong choice. I just don't know any better. I see everybody so happy and getting what they want all of the time, and it comes so difficult for me. So if I can just be in control and boss them around and call myself this evil genius, it's a nice way to explain to myself and everyone else why I'm not a part of what's going on. Because I choose not to be. Because I'm above it. Because I'm an evil genius.
Hmmm. So Warren is that way because he chooses to be? Ugh. That makes me hate him even more.
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The latest news about ''Buffy'' -- Producer Marti Noxon talks about going to DVD, Sarah Michelle Gellar's new 'do, and storylines you'll never see by Liane Bonin
A vampire slayer gets no respect, so why should her fans? DVDs of ''Buffy the Vampire Slayer'' have been available in Europe and Australia for years (VHS versions of season five are already on sale in the UK), yet America's slayer buffs had to wait until last week for season one to make its DVD debut. Not that they weren't thrilled, but why the delay? A spokesman at 20th Century Fox TV (the studio behind the UPN hit) cryptically blames ''different release patterns'' for the delay.
That's not much in the way of consolation -- then again, even ''Buffy'''s creators can't score DVDs. ''They don't send us copies,'' laughs executive producer Marti Noxon. ''And we have a pretty limited say as far as what episodes are released and when.'' Luckily, Noxon has plenty of say about everything else. She talked to EW.com about discarded storylines, steamy sex, and the new series that may one day fill ''Buffy'''s high heels.
Now that the first season is out on DVD, can you tell us about storylines that never made the cut?
Actually, there were a lot of things we were going to do and never did. More recently, in season four, Maggie (Lindsay Crouse) was going to be much more of a mother figure for Riley, introducing him to another girl to lure him away from Buffy. We thought it would create some Shakespearean jealousy, and then we went, ehhh, forget it. But most of the changes [throughout the series] have had to do with actors coming and going. We had a lot more planned for Seth Green (Oz), for example, but his departure [to do films] opened the door for Tara (Amber Benson), which was something we never expected. And there would have been far more Angel-Buffy angst if he hadn't gotten his own show.
Speaking of Angel and Buffy, will there ever be another crossover? If David E. Kelly can jump networks [''Ally McBeal'' and ''The Practice''], why can't you?
It's not gonna happen, and it's not only a contractual issue. Even if it boosted our ratings for one night, viewers might say, ''Hey, what about that Angel guy? I wonder what he's up to on that other network?'' which would be a problem for UPN. I don't think there's any bad blood, but I also don't think either UPN or the WB are looking to do each other a favor.
Was Sarah Michelle Gellar's haircut really a big deal?
No, not really. She came to us and said she wanted to do it, and we were fine with that. It's not like our audience is completely attached to the hair. And I like it. I think it makes her look kinda kicky.
This has to be the raciest season of ''Buffy'' yet. How are you getting away with Spike and Buffy's more explicit moments, including allusions to oral sex?
You can't get around the fact that the ideas are really nasty, but the actual content hasn't been. We've had less nudity this year than last, except for Spike, but no one's complaining about that. It's just because the nature of Buffy's relationship with Spike is much more sexual than her past relationships, and it's not about cuddly sex, either. I think the censors understand that if you're a kid of a certain age, you're not going to get it. And if you're old enough to get it, then, well, you get it. But I'm sure we have some challenges ahead, because it's not going to get less sexy for a while.
What can you tell us about ''Buffy'' creator Joss Whedon's new Fox series, ''Firefly''?
It's basically a science fiction western. The show takes place in the wake of a universal civil war in which the government wanted to unite all of the planets into one federation. The government won, so the guys on our ship, who fought for independence, are cruising the periphery of the universe where some of the planets still haven't been reached by the government. They aren't heroes; they do a lot of salvage work and odd jobs, some of which aren't so legal. But it's not like most sci-fi shows where everything's in black and white. The government isn't all bad, but they do some bad stuff. There's a cool ship and there's going to be nifty hardware, but the goal is to make all the characters' emotional lives totally real. We're focusing on their struggles, not a guy with a gorgon on his templok or something.
So Joss has ''Buffy,'' ''Angel,'' ''Firefly,'' an animated version of ''Buffy,'' and the BBC ''Buffy'' spin-off ''Ripper'' on his plate. When does his head explode?
He doesn't need the same things other humans need, like rest or bad television, damn him. And the thing is, there's another show in the offing that he and I and ''Angel'' producer David Greenwalt are planning for next season. But it's possible that ''Ripper'' might be delayed because of ''Firefly.''
There's a rumor going around that another one of the main characters on ''Buffy'' is going to die. How do you deal with leaks?
I can't comment on the rumor. We used to get really upset and send out fake spoilers so people would be confused, and we still do, sometimes, but we can't plug all the holes. We try not to pay too much attention, because it just makes you crazy.
Now that Buffy's in her 20s, do you see a series end in sight? [This message has been edited by Warduke (edited January 29, 2002).]
I was joking with a friend that one day we'll be doing Xander versus the love handles monster. Let us stop before it gets lame! If key members don't want to continue we won't. Every year we think, this could be it, but every year we continue to feel enthused about it, and it just keeps going.
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By IAN SPELLING
What’s stranger than demons on motorcycles? Or vampires with souls? Or teenaged vampire slayers? How about the prospect of a 10-minute interview with the guy who created the demons, vampires and slayers in question? A chat with Joss Whedon is not, in and of itself, strange; rather, it’s the 10-minute restriction that’s unusual. Whedon, you see, is a great talker--funny, frank and enthusiastic. Get him started on a subject he likes, and he’s off. Get him talking about BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER, ANGEL, the BUFFY first-season DVD collection, the upcoming animated BUFFY series and the forthcoming Giles miniseries, and 10 minutes of scheduled talk time…well, let’s just say the interview ran over a bit.
The main topic of the day is the BUFFY DVD package. Due for release January 15 from Fox Home Entertainment, the three-disc collection includes all 12 first-season episodes, along with Whedon commentary on three of them, assorted interviews, scripts, photos, trailers and bios, all for the low suggested retail price of $39.98. “I’m probably happiest to see ‘The Puppet Show’ on DVD, because it has the entire, only-broadcast-once scene from OEDIPUS REX that we did at the end,” Whedon notes. “That was the only time that the WB let us run the show over by a little bit [into the credits sequence]. I was very happy to get that in there. ‘Prophecy Girl’ and ‘The Pack’ are a couple of others I’m glad people can see on DVD. ‘The Pack’ took the series to a new level. That’s when we realized, ‘Hey, we can get really dark and ugly with this show.’ That was cool.
“Every one of those first-season episodes was an extremely tortuous process,” he continues. “I had never done it before. I had a staff of really smart people, but nobody really knew the show yet except for [co-executive producer] David Greenwalt and me. The ‘Witch’ episode was a big deal for us because it was David who came up with the big twist. And the moment he said it, the hair on the back of my neck stood up. It was so creepy and real and I said, ‘That’s what this show is.’ So every one of those first round of shows has some moment of discovery. Plus, I was getting to know just how good my cast was. So, for me, it’s 12 hours of insane fun.”
Sitting in a studio years after the fact in order to screen episodes and record his thoughts about them was, Whedon acknowledges, an unusual exercise. “I did interviews about a lot of them, but the actual commentary just on ‘Welcome to the Hellmouth,’ ‘Harvest’ and ‘Prophecy Girl,’ ” he explains. “It was weird to do the commentaries, because you effectively go back and cringe. There were times where I’d sit there and think, ‘Oh, I’d change this. I’d change that.’ But I also thought, ‘Hey, a lot of this is pretty cool! I’d watch this show.’ It was great to realize that, even early on, even though the show has matured, we had a mission statement right up front. We understood that mission statement and stuck to it, and it was kind of nice to see that.”
It should be interesting for Whedon when he eventually sits down to offer up commentary on current episodes of BUFFY, since he’s pulled back a bit from his day-to-day responsibilities on the series. Longtime co-producer Marti Noxon essentially runs the show now and shares co-executive producer credit with Whedon. The creator, however, participates in the storybreaking sessions for each hour and, most notably, wrote and directed season six’s highpoint thus far: “Once More, With Feeling.” Anyone who feared that the musical episode would be nothing more than a stunt was quickly proved wrong, as every song served to further the storyline.
“That was the happiest experience of my short and tawdry life,” Whedon says. “It was the most work I’ve ever done, the hardest I’ve ever seen my cast and my crew work. We put it together at the end of the day and everybody seemed to feel it worked. You know, I got to make a musical in my lifetime--not many people can say that. So I’m just about as happy with that episode as I’ve ever been about anything.”
Then there’s ANGEL to consider. Despite his falling out with the WB over BUFFY (which now airs on UPN), Whedon remains nearly as involved with ANGEL as he is with that series. And he’s currently gearing up to write and direct an ANGEL episode, one that may have something to do with Angel’s (David Boreanaz) little bundle of joy, Connor. That the show is doing well--very well, in fact--without a lead-in from its progenitor doesn’t exactly surprise Whedon. “I expected that it would do OK,” he says. “I always believed that it was its own show. I like it and love it in different ways than I like and love BUFFY. So I’m not surprised to see it doing well. The people at the WB seem happy, so I’m like, ‘Oh good.’ To me, ANGEL has a very different feel. It’s not just another version of BUFFY, even though both shows are part of the same aesthetic and mythology.”
Whedon will soon enter another aesthetic and mythology, as he’s currently putting much of his energy into the upcoming Fox series FIREFLY. A sci-fi adventure that’ll be more about humans than aliens, FIREFLY will debut next fall with a two-hour pilot written, produced and directed by Whedon, with Fox committed to 13 episodes. In the meantime, though, Whedon is very much involved in two BUFFY-related projects, namely BUFFY: THE ANIMATED SERIES and RIPPER, the proposed British miniseries devoted to the trials and tribulations of Giles (Anthony Stewart Head), Buffy’s beloved Watcher.
“The animated show is going along slowly,” Whedon says. “It’s kind of like the soundtracks [for BUFFY the series and the “Once More, With Feeling” episode] and the DVDs in that it’s taking a long time to come together. Most of the actors from the show will be doing their voices, which is really fun. We’ve got everybody except Sarah [Michelle Gellar]. Her schedule is just too insane, so she’s not going to do it. We’ll find a similar voice for the Buffy character. Quite frankly, it can be done. A lot of voices can be mimicked, but there are certain cast members, like Alyson [Hannigan, who plays Willow], where I couldn’t hear anybody else doing it. In a way, the character actors are the most important part of something like that. So we’ll have the whole ensemble save Sarah, and we don’t know about David [Boreanaz] yet. Sarah and David are working on their shows more than anyone else and are probably not as anxious to play their characters in their spare time, whereas the rest of us still get a kick out of it.
“We’ve got scripts from the [live-action] show’s actual writing staff, so they’re feeling really strong, funny and exciting. It’s BUFFY, year one, all the stories in between the episodes on the DVD, pretty much. That’s fun for us. I loved the first-season stories, and when they graduated from high school I was rather sad. I was like, ‘But I still have more high-school stories to tell! Why are they graduating?’ Now we get to go back and tell them. The stories for the animated show will be a little simpler and more emotionally direct. The [live-action] series is more complex. Also, the animated version will be a little sillier. It should be on the air next fall. We’re ready now, but it’s a matter at this point of dealing with big corporations. Networks are changing hands, so there is all sorts of confusion. But we’re doing our part.
“The BBC show with Giles is on a slower track,” he continues. “I did just get off the phone with one of the producers on it, and we were talking about shaping it and feeling it out when we have time to get over to England and start putting it up.”
Before the conversation ends, one more potential project must be addressed: There has once again been buzz amongst the BUFFY faithful that Whedon plans to take a stab at another feature version, and this time it’s a bit louder than usual. “I’ve heard stories about a BUFFY movie since year one,” Whedon offers. “You’ll hear them many years from now as well. BUFFY movies depend on when we finish the show. We’ll never do one while the series is on the air. If, when we finish the show, we all feel like hanging out some more, then maybe we’ll do one. And if we don’t, we won’t. BUFFY would make a great movie. I love this cast and they’d all be great in a feature. I’d love to see it happen, but it’s a while off even if it does."
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"Everthing's just turning out so dark..."
"No, it's okay. Lost is good. Willow and I always know how to find each other!"
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He speaks of Willow and Willow and Tara:
Marsters praised "Buffy" for tackling the nation's drug-addiction problem through the metaphor of Willow (Alyson Hannigan) being addicted to witchcraft. Willow is slowly recovering, with help from her friends.
"Not all TV shows are talking about it," Marsters said.
He also praised the show for its normal depiction of a lesbian relationship, the one between Willow and fellow witch Tara (Amber Benson).
"The Tara relationship, so controversial in the beginning, has been integrated so organically. It's a gay relationship that not's about being gay, that's not about having the first gay kiss. I don't know a precedent for it."
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I have the sudden urge to dedicate my productive cooperation.
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I don't think it makes me a bad guy. I just make the wrong choice. I just don't know any better. I see everybody so happy and getting what they want all of the time, and it comes so difficult for me. So if I can just be in control and boss them around and call myself this evil genius, it's a nice way to explain to myself and everyone else why I'm not a part of what's going on. Because I choose not to be. Because I'm above it. Because I'm an evil genius.
Hmmm. So Warren is that way because he chooses to be? Ugh. That makes me hate him even more.
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IP: LoggedxitaMs. Moderator By IAN SPELLING
What’s stranger than demons on motorcycles? Or vampires with souls? Or teenaged vampire slayers? How about the prospect of a 10-minute interview with the guy who created the demons, vampires and slayers in question? A chat with Joss Whedon is not, in and of itself, strange; rather, it’s the 10-minute restriction that’s unusual. Whedon, you see, is a great talker--funny, frank and enthusiastic. Get him started on a subject he likes, and he’s off. Get him talking about BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER, ANGEL, the BUFFY first-season DVD collection, the upcoming animated BUFFY series and the forthcoming Giles miniseries, and 10 minutes of scheduled talk time…well, let’s just say the interview ran over a bit.
The main topic of the day is the BUFFY DVD package. Due for release January 15 from Fox Home Entertainment, the three-disc collection includes all 12 first-season episodes, along with Whedon commentary on three of them, assorted interviews, scripts, photos, trailers and bios, all for the low suggested retail price of $39.98. “I’m probably happiest to see ‘The Puppet Show’ on DVD, because it has the entire, only-broadcast-once scene from OEDIPUS REX that we did at the end,” Whedon notes. “That was the only time that the WB let us run the show over by a little bit [into the credits sequence]. I was very happy to get that in there. ‘Prophecy Girl’ and ‘The Pack’ are a couple of others I’m glad people can see on DVD. ‘The Pack’ took the series to a new level. That’s when we realized, ‘Hey, we can get really dark and ugly with this show.’ That was cool.
“Every one of those first-season episodes was an extremely tortuous process,” he continues. “I had never done it before. I had a staff of really smart people, but nobody really knew the show yet except for [co-executive producer] David Greenwalt and me. The ‘Witch’ episode was a big deal for us because it was David who came up with the big twist. And the moment he said it, the hair on the back of my neck stood up. It was so creepy and real and I said, ‘That’s what this show is.’ So every one of those first round of shows has some moment of discovery. Plus, I was getting to know just how good my cast was. So, for me, it’s 12 hours of insane fun.”
Sitting in a studio years after the fact in order to screen episodes and record his thoughts about them was, Whedon acknowledges, an unusual exercise. “I did interviews about a lot of them, but the actual commentary just on ‘Welcome to the Hellmouth,’ ‘Harvest’ and ‘Prophecy Girl,’ ” he explains. “It was weird to do the commentaries, because you effectively go back and cringe. There were times where I’d sit there and think, ‘Oh, I’d change this. I’d change that.’ But I also thought, ‘Hey, a lot of this is pretty cool! I’d watch this show.’ It was great to realize that, even early on, even though the show has matured, we had a mission statement right up front. We understood that mission statement and stuck to it, and it was kind of nice to see that.”
It should be interesting for Whedon when he eventually sits down to offer up commentary on current episodes of BUFFY, since he’s pulled back a bit from his day-to-day responsibilities on the series. Longtime co-producer Marti Noxon essentially runs the show now and shares co-executive producer credit with Whedon. The creator, however, participates in the storybreaking sessions for each hour and, most notably, wrote and directed season six’s highpoint thus far: “Once More, With Feeling.” Anyone who feared that the musical episode would be nothing more than a stunt was quickly proved wrong, as every song served to further the storyline.
“That was the happiest experience of my short and tawdry life,” Whedon says. “It was the most work I’ve ever done, the hardest I’ve ever seen my cast and my crew work. We put it together at the end of the day and everybody seemed to feel it worked. You know, I got to make a musical in my lifetime--not many people can say that. So I’m just about as happy with that episode as I’ve ever been about anything.”
Then there’s ANGEL to consider. Despite his falling out with the WB over BUFFY (which now airs on UPN), Whedon remains nearly as involved with ANGEL as he is with that series. And he’s currently gearing up to write and direct an ANGEL episode, one that may have something to do with Angel’s (David Boreanaz) little bundle of joy, Connor. That the show is doing well--very well, in fact--without a lead-in from its progenitor doesn’t exactly surprise Whedon. “I expected that it would do OK,” he says. “I always believed that it was its own show. I like it and love it in different ways than I like and love BUFFY. So I’m not surprised to see it doing well. The people at the WB seem happy, so I’m like, ‘Oh good.’ To me, ANGEL has a very different feel. It’s not just another version of BUFFY, even though both shows are part of the same aesthetic and mythology.”
Whedon will soon enter another aesthetic and mythology, as he’s currently putting much of his energy into the upcoming Fox series FIREFLY. A sci-fi adventure that’ll be more about humans than aliens, FIREFLY will debut next fall with a two-hour pilot written, produced and directed by Whedon, with Fox committed to 13 episodes. In the meantime, though, Whedon is very much involved in two BUFFY-related projects, namely BUFFY: THE ANIMATED SERIES and RIPPER, the proposed British miniseries devoted to the trials and tribulations of Giles (Anthony Stewart Head), Buffy’s beloved Watcher.
“The animated show is going along slowly,” Whedon says. “It’s kind of like the soundtracks [for BUFFY the series and the “Once More, With Feeling” episode] and the DVDs in that it’s taking a long time to come together. Most of the actors from the show will be doing their voices, which is really fun. We’ve got everybody except Sarah [Michelle Gellar]. Her schedule is just too insane, so she’s not going to do it. We’ll find a similar voice for the Buffy character. Quite frankly, it can be done. A lot of voices can be mimicked, but there are certain cast members, like Alyson [Hannigan, who plays Willow], where I couldn’t hear anybody else doing it. In a way, the character actors are the most important part of something like that. So we’ll have the whole ensemble save Sarah, and we don’t know about David [Boreanaz] yet. Sarah and David are working on their shows more than anyone else and are probably not as anxious to play their characters in their spare time, whereas the rest of us still get a kick out of it.
“We’ve got scripts from the [live-action] show’s actual writing staff, so they’re feeling really strong, funny and exciting. It’s BUFFY, year one, all the stories in between the episodes on the DVD, pretty much. That’s fun for us. I loved the first-season stories, and when they graduated from high school I was rather sad. I was like, ‘But I still have more high-school stories to tell! Why are they graduating?’ Now we get to go back and tell them. The stories for the animated show will be a little simpler and more emotionally direct. The [live-action] series is more complex. Also, the animated version will be a little sillier. It should be on the air next fall. We’re ready now, but it’s a matter at this point of dealing with big corporations. Networks are changing hands, so there is all sorts of confusion. But we’re doing our part.
“The BBC show with Giles is on a slower track,” he continues. “I did just get off the phone with one of the producers on it, and we were talking about shaping it and feeling it out when we have time to get over to England and start putting it up.”
Before the conversation ends, one more potential project must be addressed: There has once again been buzz amongst the BUFFY faithful that Whedon plans to take a stab at another feature version, and this time it’s a bit louder than usual. “I’ve heard stories about a BUFFY movie since year one,” Whedon offers. “You’ll hear them many years from now as well. BUFFY movies depend on when we finish the show. We’ll never do one while the series is on the air. If, when we finish the show, we all feel like hanging out some more, then maybe we’ll do one. And if we don’t, we won’t. BUFFY would make a great movie. I love this cast and they’d all be great in a feature. I’d love to see it happen, but it’s a while off even if it does."
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"Everthing's just turning out so dark..."
"No, it's okay. Lost is good. Willow and I always know how to find each other!"
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posted January 31, 2002 00:53 A Joss interview over at fangoriaBy IAN SPELLING
What’s stranger than demons on motorcycles? Or vampires with souls? Or teenaged vampire slayers? How about the prospect of a 10-minute interview with the guy who created the demons, vampires and slayers in question? A chat with Joss Whedon is not, in and of itself, strange; rather, it’s the 10-minute restriction that’s unusual. Whedon, you see, is a great talker--funny, frank and enthusiastic. Get him started on a subject he likes, and he’s off. Get him talking about BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER, ANGEL, the BUFFY first-season DVD collection, the upcoming animated BUFFY series and the forthcoming Giles miniseries, and 10 minutes of scheduled talk time…well, let’s just say the interview ran over a bit.
The main topic of the day is the BUFFY DVD package. Due for release January 15 from Fox Home Entertainment, the three-disc collection includes all 12 first-season episodes, along with Whedon commentary on three of them, assorted interviews, scripts, photos, trailers and bios, all for the low suggested retail price of $39.98. “I’m probably happiest to see ‘The Puppet Show’ on DVD, because it has the entire, only-broadcast-once scene from OEDIPUS REX that we did at the end,” Whedon notes. “That was the only time that the WB let us run the show over by a little bit [into the credits sequence]. I was very happy to get that in there. ‘Prophecy Girl’ and ‘The Pack’ are a couple of others I’m glad people can see on DVD. ‘The Pack’ took the series to a new level. That’s when we realized, ‘Hey, we can get really dark and ugly with this show.’ That was cool.
“Every one of those first-season episodes was an extremely tortuous process,” he continues. “I had never done it before. I had a staff of really smart people, but nobody really knew the show yet except for [co-executive producer] David Greenwalt and me. The ‘Witch’ episode was a big deal for us because it was David who came up with the big twist. And the moment he said it, the hair on the back of my neck stood up. It was so creepy and real and I said, ‘That’s what this show is.’ So every one of those first round of shows has some moment of discovery. Plus, I was getting to know just how good my cast was. So, for me, it’s 12 hours of insane fun.”
Sitting in a studio years after the fact in order to screen episodes and record his thoughts about them was, Whedon acknowledges, an unusual exercise. “I did interviews about a lot of them, but the actual commentary just on ‘Welcome to the Hellmouth,’ ‘Harvest’ and ‘Prophecy Girl,’ ” he explains. “It was weird to do the commentaries, because you effectively go back and cringe. There were times where I’d sit there and think, ‘Oh, I’d change this. I’d change that.’ But I also thought, ‘Hey, a lot of this is pretty cool! I’d watch this show.’ It was great to realize that, even early on, even though the show has matured, we had a mission statement right up front. We understood that mission statement and stuck to it, and it was kind of nice to see that.”
It should be interesting for Whedon when he eventually sits down to offer up commentary on current episodes of BUFFY, since he’s pulled back a bit from his day-to-day responsibilities on the series. Longtime co-producer Marti Noxon essentially runs the show now and shares co-executive producer credit with Whedon. The creator, however, participates in the storybreaking sessions for each hour and, most notably, wrote and directed season six’s highpoint thus far: “Once More, With Feeling.” Anyone who feared that the musical episode would be nothing more than a stunt was quickly proved wrong, as every song served to further the storyline.
“That was the happiest experience of my short and tawdry life,” Whedon says. “It was the most work I’ve ever done, the hardest I’ve ever seen my cast and my crew work. We put it together at the end of the day and everybody seemed to feel it worked. You know, I got to make a musical in my lifetime--not many people can say that. So I’m just about as happy with that episode as I’ve ever been about anything.”
Then there’s ANGEL to consider. Despite his falling out with the WB over BUFFY (which now airs on UPN), Whedon remains nearly as involved with ANGEL as he is with that series. And he’s currently gearing up to write and direct an ANGEL episode, one that may have something to do with Angel’s (David Boreanaz) little bundle of joy, Connor. That the show is doing well--very well, in fact--without a lead-in from its progenitor doesn’t exactly surprise Whedon. “I expected that it would do OK,” he says. “I always believed that it was its own show. I like it and love it in different ways than I like and love BUFFY. So I’m not surprised to see it doing well. The people at the WB seem happy, so I’m like, ‘Oh good.’ To me, ANGEL has a very different feel. It’s not just another version of BUFFY, even though both shows are part of the same aesthetic and mythology.”
Whedon will soon enter another aesthetic and mythology, as he’s currently putting much of his energy into the upcoming Fox series FIREFLY. A sci-fi adventure that’ll be more about humans than aliens, FIREFLY will debut next fall with a two-hour pilot written, produced and directed by Whedon, with Fox committed to 13 episodes. In the meantime, though, Whedon is very much involved in two BUFFY-related projects, namely BUFFY: THE ANIMATED SERIES and RIPPER, the proposed British miniseries devoted to the trials and tribulations of Giles (Anthony Stewart Head), Buffy’s beloved Watcher.
“The animated show is going along slowly,” Whedon says. “It’s kind of like the soundtracks [for BUFFY the series and the “Once More, With Feeling” episode] and the DVDs in that it’s taking a long time to come together. Most of the actors from the show will be doing their voices, which is really fun. We’ve got everybody except Sarah [Michelle Gellar]. Her schedule is just too insane, so she’s not going to do it. We’ll find a similar voice for the Buffy character. Quite frankly, it can be done. A lot of voices can be mimicked, but there are certain cast members, like Alyson [Hannigan, who plays Willow], where I couldn’t hear anybody else doing it. In a way, the character actors are the most important part of something like that. So we’ll have the whole ensemble save Sarah, and we don’t know about David [Boreanaz] yet. Sarah and David are working on their shows more than anyone else and are probably not as anxious to play their characters in their spare time, whereas the rest of us still get a kick out of it.
“We’ve got scripts from the [live-action] show’s actual writing staff, so they’re feeling really strong, funny and exciting. It’s BUFFY, year one, all the stories in between the episodes on the DVD, pretty much. That’s fun for us. I loved the first-season stories, and when they graduated from high school I was rather sad. I was like, ‘But I still have more high-school stories to tell! Why are they graduating?’ Now we get to go back and tell them. The stories for the animated show will be a little simpler and more emotionally direct. The [live-action] series is more complex. Also, the animated version will be a little sillier. It should be on the air next fall. We’re ready now, but it’s a matter at this point of dealing with big corporations. Networks are changing hands, so there is all sorts of confusion. But we’re doing our part.
“The BBC show with Giles is on a slower track,” he continues. “I did just get off the phone with one of the producers on it, and we were talking about shaping it and feeling it out when we have time to get over to England and start putting it up.”
Before the conversation ends, one more potential project must be addressed: There has once again been buzz amongst the BUFFY faithful that Whedon plans to take a stab at another feature version, and this time it’s a bit louder than usual. “I’ve heard stories about a BUFFY movie since year one,” Whedon offers. “You’ll hear them many years from now as well. BUFFY movies depend on when we finish the show. We’ll never do one while the series is on the air. If, when we finish the show, we all feel like hanging out some more, then maybe we’ll do one. And if we don’t, we won’t. BUFFY would make a great movie. I love this cast and they’d all be great in a feature. I’d love to see it happen, but it’s a while off even if it does."
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"Everthing's just turning out so dark..."
"No, it's okay. Lost is good. Willow and I always know how to find each other!"
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posted January 31, 2002 03:39 Thanks for posting those interviews. Interesting stuff. Hope Ripper doesn't get delayed though.IP: LoggedxitaMs. Moderator He speaks of Willow and Willow and Tara:
Marsters praised "Buffy" for tackling the nation's drug-addiction problem through the metaphor of Willow (Alyson Hannigan) being addicted to witchcraft. Willow is slowly recovering, with help from her friends.
"Not all TV shows are talking about it," Marsters said.
He also praised the show for its normal depiction of a lesbian relationship, the one between Willow and fellow witch Tara (Amber Benson).
"The Tara relationship, so controversial in the beginning, has been integrated so organically. It's a gay relationship that not's about being gay, that's not about having the first gay kiss. I don't know a precedent for it."
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"Everthing's just turning out so dark..."
"No, it's okay. Lost is good. Willow and I always know how to find each other!"
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posted February 01, 2002 23:31 A james interview at nando timesHe speaks of Willow and Willow and Tara:
Marsters praised "Buffy" for tackling the nation's drug-addiction problem through the metaphor of Willow (Alyson Hannigan) being addicted to witchcraft. Willow is slowly recovering, with help from her friends.
"Not all TV shows are talking about it," Marsters said.
He also praised the show for its normal depiction of a lesbian relationship, the one between Willow and fellow witch Tara (Amber Benson).
"The Tara relationship, so controversial in the beginning, has been integrated so organically. It's a gay relationship that not's about being gay, that's not about having the first gay kiss. I don't know a precedent for it."
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"Everthing's just turning out so dark..."
"No, it's okay. Lost is good. Willow and I always know how to find each other!"
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I have the sudden urge to dedicate my productive cooperation.
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posted February 11, 2002 12:28 Interview with the evil nerd squad here: http://www.scifi.com/sfw/advance/11_interview.html------------------
Autumn
I have the sudden urge to dedicate my productive cooperation.
IP: LoggedtommoLesbian Gay Type Lover quote:
I don't think it makes me a bad guy. I just make the wrong choice. I just don't know any better. I see everybody so happy and getting what they want all of the time, and it comes so difficult for me. So if I can just be in control and boss them around and call myself this evil genius, it's a nice way to explain to myself and everyone else why I'm not a part of what's going on. Because I choose not to be. Because I'm above it. Because I'm an evil genius.
Hmmm. So Warren is that way because he chooses to be? Ugh. That makes me hate him even more.
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Sweetie...I'm a fag.
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posted February 11, 2002 12:56quote:
I don't think it makes me a bad guy. I just make the wrong choice. I just don't know any better. I see everybody so happy and getting what they want all of the time, and it comes so difficult for me. So if I can just be in control and boss them around and call myself this evil genius, it's a nice way to explain to myself and everyone else why I'm not a part of what's going on. Because I choose not to be. Because I'm above it. Because I'm an evil genius.
Hmmm. So Warren is that way because he chooses to be? Ugh. That makes me hate him even more.
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Sweetie...I'm a fag.
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posted February 11, 2002 13:03 Is it me, or does Adam seem to have no grasp on the character of Warren at all? I mean I understand he wants to not play a total sleaze but ... hmm yeah. And at the end he says the 3 of them make up the perfect guy? I hope that's a joke.IP: LoggedDr.GLesbian Gay Type Lover IP: Logged
posted February 11, 2002 13:31 Well ick and ick, I really really hope this interview was conducted *before* Warren bashed Katrina's head in, otherwise I really have to wonder what he has been sniffing. And that perfect guy thing has got to be a joke.by TyRex316* » Wed Jan 23, 2002 11:21 am
*reposted by WillTara
by BabyWillow81 » Wed Jan 23, 2002 11:57 am
quote:
Originally posted by AutumnT*:
About the EW article...You know, I found this article insulting in comparing that scene from Once More With Feeling which was all sly implication to the Buffy/Spike skin fest. Buffy's hetero characters have always been involved in sexual scenes. Let's not forget the boink fest episode with Riley. It just rubbed me the wrong way that they say that scene between Willow and Tara deserves a MA rating when so many others did not seem to warrant it.
I totally agree with you autumn..besides the willow and tara scene was all left to imagination....I mean I love the fact that they concemated Willow and Taras relationship and we got to see it YAY!
Heres comes the big butttttt though..... But they didnt even kiss!!! How many of us "NONVIRGINS" don't kiss before, during, or after making love?
So how realistic was this romantic consemation of Willow and Tara they showed us? Not to be all second gradish or anything but Buffy and spike got to kiss! Besides that when they shot amber benson/ Tara rising off the bed.....ummm out of my own personal experience we should have at least been able to see the movement of willows head under the dress.
I mean their lovemaking scene wouldnt even be considered late night skinemax soft core porn. And they wanna slap an MA censorship on it?
Dawn got better smoochies in the Halloween episode!!!! Shes what 15?
So C'mon people you knoe the slap the musical with an MA rating is in some ways just homophobia.........
SO all I have to say is when willow and tara get back together..( I may be in denial here ) They better get real smoochies...like THE BODY smoochies allthough not in a pending death situation sort of way. Maybe an all gay all nakie episode.....or two.
But I still loved the musical!! Cheezy love scene or not IT ROCKED!!! That might be the cookies talkin but it rocked!
NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF LOVE!!!!!!
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BabyWillow81: Danni look at this picture . Did You ever notice Amber benson hardly ever wears shoes? I mean they even protrayed her sholess in a scenes in the comic wanna blessed be....
Starrgazr9: ambers a "shoelessphine".
LOL
BabyWillow81: Hmmm Amber, mandy.....you in shower sandals....I must have a thing for "shoelessphines". LOL
quote:by Cipher » Wed Jan 23, 2002 2:58 pm
I don't think the article was serious about Buffy needing an MA rating; I think they were just trying to make with the funny over how steamy the show has gotten this season. I choose to interpret their mention of the floating-O as a positive one, like "look how cool the show has gotten...they finally show a very intimate W/T love act that is implied rather than just metaphorical". They might be guilty of bad taste in their attempt at humor, but I don't think they were dis'ing W/T. (Also note that they seemed to be discussing a progression of steaminess starting with the relatively-tame floating-O and ending with the rather graphic B/S shagging.)
And putting an MA rating on it isn't exactly censorship; it would merely be done as a reflection of the content level of the show (which I don't believe exceeds PG14 even with the floating-O, or with more W/T snuggling than they've shown; the B/S "shagging" scene in Wrecked gets close though, even for those of us who don't mind such things). The censorship is done by those (parents) who consider that level of content inappropriate (for their children), or by those (network censors) who are trying to keep the show from exceeding a PG14 rating and choose to keep certain things out (such as the WB wanting to cut the Kiss, but fortunately Joss put his foot down and insisted on it in The Body; and supposedly when they saw the final scene the network agreed it was appropriate--which of course it was, entirely).
BTW, when the mods close a redundant thread and link it to a spoilery thread, it would help for that to be noted (such as the thread title you're sending us to, not just "here"), especially when the other thread was not itself very spoilery.
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