Alabama Court Rules Against Gay Mother

[WbBuffyfan00]

Nope your not the only Alabama kitties....I'm in Panama City now...but I moved here from Troy last May. I still consider Alabama home....and my parents still live in Dothan.

-Amy

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"You want to take a picture of my butt?...ummm...OK...You've got two seconds." -Amber

[emma_peel]

Jeez. I moved from Birmingham to Atlanta just a few months ago. I think things are somewhat better here. I know lots of folks in Alabama think like Judge Moore,but I just don't understand how people can think like that.(I know I'm being very naive).
At least Amber is a terrific example of someone from Alabama who is open-minded,to say the very least.
Going back to lurking now.

[orion]

The sad thing is that this "judge" probably has 8 kids that he is raising to be just like him... *sigh*

I thought any children over 15 got a say in which parent they wanted to live with, is that only in California?
Did they say anything about an appeal?

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"Okay, thats a little blacker then I like my arts" -Willow

[Wolfie]

There will always be bigotry, and, I'm afraid, there will always be culturally retarded, arrogant, bullish, intollerant genetic freaks, who, for some reason, nature decides to produce with their assholes positioned just beneath their noses. Maybe that's why they're so mean-spirited ... And society will always support them, because, when faced with the loudest, most strident string of abusive ranting, society goes, oh, they're speaking above a certain volume; that must make them right - we'll call their pointless bile a polemic, and give them a seat in office somewhere - anywhere they can create the most damage should be good. Unfortunately, chopping their heads off with a chainsaw doesn't work, 'cause there's always a whole clan of the buggers waiting in the wings to fill the space. But, for a clutch of bigoted twits to be trying to hold society back, so vehemently, must mean that society is actually moving forward, hopefully away from them.

By the way, what happens now, when this sort of thing happens in the States? Is it likely to be taken up and discussed properly in the media/Government? Or buried? How are juctices selected? Isn't it by a government panel, or is it an election?

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I am the sunlight on the sides of houses.

[Charlie]

Wolfie, I do love you, honey!! You make diatribe an art form...

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"Je dois partir maintenant parce que ma grandmere est flambé..."
- Eddie 'covered in beeeees!' Izzard

[Emma]

BS!
I'm 19 and my girlfriend has 1 daughter. She's a fantastic mother and Poppy is very well looked after by both of us. We've had social workers sticking their closed minded crappy little noses in and we will fight all the way to keep our daughter with us.

xxx

[maudmac]

Hey. Sorry to bump this up. But here's a link to the site with the text of the decision for anyone who wanted more information. (It's very long and mostly boring. Moore cites the Bible, a Roman emperor, St. Thomas Aquinas, and gobs and gobs of English common law. As if those have anything to do with anything.)

http://www.wallacejordan.com/1002045.htm

And here's a particularly disturbing quote from Moore's decision:

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The State may not interfere with the internal governing, structure, and maintenance of the family, but the protection of the family is a responsibility of the State. Custody disputes involve decision-making by the State, within the limits of its sphere of authority, in a way that preserves the fundamental family structure. The State carries the power of the sword, that is, the power to prohibit conduct with physical penalties, such as confinement and even execution. It must use that power to prevent the subversion of children toward this lifestyle, to not encourage a criminal lifestyle.

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Um, yeah, you read that right. EXECUTION!

Fortunately, there's a shitstorm brewing. There's been one rally already and another one in the works. It's the church people who're working on the next rally. Bless 'em.

As far as appeals and such, I have no idea. I really hope there's some way to get this guy off the bench. The voters of Alabama certainly won't.
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[TotalImmortal]

grrr why is it that people like this judge have to be so ignorant , why cant they just try to except, or at least deal with the fact that people are not all the same.
this guy was probobly raised this way and is raising his kids the same way.
being gay or a lesbian does not make you evil... no more evil then someone who is straight...

[Caity]

This is so out of hand!! EXECUTION?!?!?!? Jeezzz....

[Pixie-Muso]

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Originally posted by Sarah-B:
Last night on Aust. TV, there was a news segment (on ABC news) about another new study that has found children of gay couples are no more likely to suffer problems (of any kind), than those of straight couples, and are just as likely to grow up healthy and happy.

During the story, they included a brief interview with two women who are raising their young daughter.
And Dr Kerryn Phelps (president of the Australian Medical Association, and also a lesbian) also spoke out to support the new study.

The whole report was very positive.
Anyway I just thought I'd mention it as a little good news story

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Thanks for the news, Sarah. I must've missed that (though I don't often watch much more than stuff from the late night news on Ch 10). Sounds like something from Today-Today or ACC. Wow! That's gotta be something that family people will at least listen to, if Dr Kerryn Phelps spoke in favour of it (I'm assuming she did - right?). She's a highly respected woman. My mother and I have always liked her.

Well, thanks again for that good news in the midst of all these unpleasantries.

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"...the hardest thing in this world is to live in it..."
~Buffy, The Gift.quote:

[the literary exterminator]

Check this out. Some picketers, inspired by Judge Moore's words, visited local churches to advocate the ``education of gays.'' Then this happened:

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As a church service began at First Baptist about 5:30 p.m., the six picketers packed up and took their protest to Immanuel Presbyterian Church on Vaughn Road. The group targeted this church because of its support and acceptance of homosexuals. Also, Immanuel Presbyterian helped organize a recent anti-hate rally and openly opposed Moore, the chief justice. However, the picketers met an even larger contingent of gay rights supporters at Immanuel Presbyterian, which has gay and lesbian members.

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Story here.quote:

[maudmac]

Hey, y'all. Since this got bumped up anyway, I'll throw in two more cents. Check out this email from one of the Phelps clan. I thought my head would explode. I cannot believe these people. And that little boy (see the literary exterminator's link above) just breaks my heart. They are destroying the souls of their own children.

The email starts off:

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It just tickles me to no end when I read about you fags getting all in a dither when we come to town. We just publish a few simple words or truth in this dark, depraved generation, and the ground rumbles with you all running from the light. Amazing stuff!

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Boy, it was all I could do not to head down there Sunday. Stupid me finally caught up with my TiVo backlog Saturday night, including The Laramie Project, which was awesome, and The Matthew Shepard Story, which I kinda didn't like.

I was spoiling for a fight. And that would just be counterproductive. So I pledged some money instead. Feel better now.quote:

[Genea]

I wish I could say I'm shocked but, I'm not. I mean they fly confederate flags. Progress unfortunately is a dreadfully slow. That poor mother, heaven forbid, her children get raised in a positive environment. Justice apparently is blind but is also stupid, pathetic and has its head in its ass-oh wait thats the judges

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"Due to the recent presidential elections, the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off."