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Postby Daffy » Sat Feb 09, 2002 10:40 pm

I wasn't sure where to put this--hope here is OK.

Sci-Fi's New TV Generation
Complex Mythology, Aliens and Youth Are Keys to Success On UPN, the WB

By Tracy L. Scott
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, February 10, 2002; Page Y07

Target an audience with unstable viewing habits, discover their joys and fears and create programs that will make them feel they belong to a unique clique.

This formula has been used by youth-oriented newcomer networks UPN and the WB. The result is a new breed of sci-fi dramas featuring protagonists with whom young viewers can relate and identify.

In the process, the networks may have found the secret to creating successful sci-fi shows, which have generally -- with some exceptions -- had difficulty attracting an audience on the more established networks.

NBC, for instance, tried this sort of programming in the early 1980s. "V," about visitors from another planet, aired for nine months in 1984, and 1983's "Manimal," centered on a superhero with the ability to transform himself into animals, aired for three. "Sleepwalkers," from 1997, aired twice on NBC.

For one season in 1990, CBS telecast "The Flash," about a chemist endowed with superhuman speed. More recently, CBS's "Wolf Lake," which premiered this fall, aired only four times.

By contrast, the WB's "Charmed," about three sisters who are witches and vanquish demons, is in its fourth season. UPN's "Buffy the Vampire Slayer," whose young heroine uses supernatural means and lots of action to eliminate evil-doers, is in its sixth.

Some of those behind these successful shows describe them as blends of two genres, sci-fi and drama. "It's like 'Party of Five' with monsters," said Marti Noxon, executive producer of "Buffy" (Tuesdays at 8).

Despite the programs' focus on unreal characters, viewers still connect with the humanity of these fictional figures and the topics addressed in the shows.

"We relate to these alien characters more than we relate to the human characters," said Jason Katims, executive producer of "Roswell," a drama about young aliens living in New Mexico. It follows "Buffy" on the UPN schedule.

This idea of telling stories from the point of view of non-humans is a notable difference when comparing these newer series to classics such as "Star Trek," according to Katims, who believes the most significant element -- which younger viewers seem to appreciate -- is that these outsiders are attempting to find their place in society. They are not like the rest of the world and are struggling to find their niche, he said.

"Buffy's" Noxon agreed. "The notion of being different and more special than your peers is very appealing to young viewers," she said. "It's that notion of, 'If only they could see the real me.' It's wish fulfillment. We project ourselves in that role and imagine there's something wonderful about us that people don't know and can't see."

David Greenwalt, co-creator and executive producer of "Angel," the "Buffy" spinoff series about a good vampire, said these sci-fi dramas take real-life situations that most people have experienced and exaggerate them.

Greenwalt, whose series airs Mondays at 9 on the WB, recalled an episode of "Buffy" in which a high school student literally disappeared. "We have all been in a situation where we felt so insignificant that we thought we must be invisible," he said. "We can take that metaphor another step.

"People want to escape, but to something real. They want to escape and feel better."

Brad Kern, executive producer of "Charmed" (Thursdays at 9), seconded the idea that viewers like to think of themselves as being in a better place. "There is so much harsh reality in everyday life," he said. "These shows allow the audience to imagine. People secretly want to imagine."

"People are looking for [heroes] in their lives and in themselves," said Alfred Gough, co-creator and executive producer of the WB's "Smallville," about Kryptonian Clark Kent's youth in Kansas (Tuesdays at 9).

Noxon said she thinks the complexity of the storylines helps these shows hold their audiences. They tend to center around "a complete universe with its own complex set of rules and mythology," she said. "The result is a complex, layered universe . . . It's something [viewers] can hook into from week to week, where they are going to feel like they understand the rules and the way the game works."

"We have stalker-like fans," said Greenwalt, referring to the many Internet fan sites that dwell on many facets and nuances of these sci-fi dramas and, in some cases, serve as cyberspace gathering points for viewers.

Noxon does not feel the complexity of the shows will prevent new viewers from catching on.

"Sometimes [having such complex storylines] can be a negative because people may not have the patience, but I believe the questions are answered quickly," she said. "It helps to watch more than one episode."

© 2002 The Washington Post Company

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Postby Dr.G » Sun Feb 10, 2002 5:55 am

Interesting article thanks for posting it.

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"We have stalker-like fans," said Greenwalt, referring to the many Internet fan sites that dwell on many facets and nuances of these sci-fi dramas and, in some cases, serve as cyberspace gathering points for viewers.


Oh goodie, finally some official recognition.

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Postby tommo » Sun Feb 10, 2002 5:58 am

LMAO Garfield. Yeah, you and me love. Stalker? Me? Naaaah....

*screams madly in a hotel room* Amber! AMBER! AMMMMMMMMMMMMMBERRRRRRRR!

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Postby Dr.G » Sun Feb 10, 2002 6:15 am

Ruth dear, did you ever wonder *why* she will not being doing any European conventions this year?
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Postby Hemiola » Sun Feb 10, 2002 7:47 am

Interesting comments by MN, but I must object to BTVS being referred to as "sci-fi". As a devoted follower/reader of the classic science fiction of the 50s/60s (Asimov, Anderson, Heinlein, Pohl, Del Rey, etc. etc. etc.--I know I'm giving away my age here ), I can state with authority that "Buffy" is nothing like these stories.

I see "Buffy" as a true "Hero-Quest", the girl growing into womanhood fighting both external and internal demons. This is what makes the show, IMHO, so rich. This is why it can have a "complex" mythology. It offers its fans what Tolkien called "a sub-created universe", totally consistent within itself (OK, not totally consistent, but we fans are very forgiving ). To have produced some 115 hours of television and not become boring or repetitious is a truly extraordinary accomplishment for the entire "Buffy" team.
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Postby Under Her Spell » Sun Feb 10, 2002 11:01 am

I don't like Buffy being called sci-fi partly because I think the sci-fi elements of Buffy are usually kinda rubbish, but mostly because I firmly believe that Buffy fans are generally considered to be cooler than sci-fi fans!

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Postby Hemiola » Sun Feb 10, 2002 11:35 am

I suppose if someone put a gun to my head and insisted that I "pigeonhole" the series into some kind of genre/category, I would say that it is a "Horror Dramedy"
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Postby Dazey » Sun Feb 10, 2002 4:10 pm

Properly speaking BTVS has elements of fantasy rather than science fiction. But at its heart it is simply drama. I kinda like the "Party of Five with monsters" line of Marti's...PO5 was a great show in its heyday.
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Postby Cipher » Fri Feb 15, 2002 4:19 pm

Wow, cool article. Thanks for posting it.

As Dazey said, Buffy is technically fantasy not sci-fi, but these are usually considered a single basic genre "sci-fi/fantasy" (which then has many subtle sub-genres). For example, is Roswell sci-fi or fantasy? The premise of aliens is sci-fi, but their powers are more fantasy than sci-fi. Anne McCaffrey's Pern series is another example; it's considered sci-fi (not fantasy) even though there's essentially no high-tech or futuristic aspect to most of the books (there is later in the series) because the backstory that sets up the world of Pern has a sci-fi sort of explanation (as opposed to Lord of the Rings which is straight fantasy). There is a great deal of such cross-over between semi-plausible "scientific" explanations for things (eg. warp drive) and less-plausible "fantastic" things within the broad middle-ground between strict sci-fi and strict fantasy. Even Buffy has included some elements of sci-fi such as Adam, Molloch's robot body, Spike's chip, the trio's freeze ray and invisibility ray, and so on.

But the underlying explanations for why things work in the Buffyverse are usually heavy on the mystical rather than technological. They don't try to explain how her slayer strength works, she's just mystically stronger than a person with her body could really be; it's not meant to be explainable under the rules of normal biology as we understand them, not even with stretching the rules.

An interesting difference between some of the older series(es) that didn't last and the current ones that are mostly succeeding seems to be that the old superhero shows (Manimal, The Flash) had pretty much just one person who was special in a world that was otherwise normal, whereas the the new shows create a "complex mythology" by which lots of other people are "special" too (or become so, such as Willow learning magick).

In Smallville, rather than just have Clark, they created this whole idea of kryptonite (meteor rocks) giving "normal" people strange powers, which often creates the conflict that he has to stop. One possible problem with their approach is that there's very little consistency in the "complex mythology" of the meteor rocks; they're pretty much making up new rules each week that no longer come up after that one episode (though some traditional rules like how it affects Clark remain mostly intact). Shows like Buffy and Charmed make up new rules, too, but fit them in with the existing rules in a generally consistent way, so understanding the mythology from past episodes helps you feel a part of new ones and lets you sometimes recognize new "rules" (like the demon in OAFA) more quickly (though I notice some of that with Smallville, too (it's always the meteor rocks, so you watch for them and try to guess what the effects on the person will be), which might be why their new-effects-every-week approach still seems to be working).

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Postby Kalita » Fri Feb 15, 2002 7:46 pm

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Originally posted by Cipher:
these are usually considered a single basic genre "sci-fi/fantasy" (which then has many subtle sub-genres).

One great non-TV example of this: Star Wars is almost pure fantasy. Sure, there's spaceships and laser guns and robots an hyperdrive, but that's just the dressing. The Force, the storylines, the mythic setting - fantasy through and through.quote:

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Postby Cipher » Sat Feb 16, 2002 8:19 pm

quote:
Originally posted by Kalita:
One great non-TV example of this: Star Wars is almost pure fantasy. Sure, there's spaceships and laser guns and robots an hyperdrive, but that's just the dressing. The Force, the storylines, the mythic setting - fantasy through and through.

Hmmm, but there's also the heavily sci-fi setting, so you really can't say it's "pure" fantasy (the way Lord of the Rings would be). But you have a good point about the heavy fantasy elements of Star Wars as well. It's a good example of a generous mix of sci-fi and fantasy that explains why those are the same basic genre. The heavy use of both sci-fi and fantasy elements makes Star Wars appealing to both ends of the sci-fi/fantasy audience and probably helps to make it such a popular classic.

Also, the use of sci-fi elements and fantasy elements often have the same purpose, and the choice of one over the other is often more a matter of style. Light-sabers vs. magic swords, Star Trek transporters vs. mind-powered teleportation ability, flying vehicles vs. flying animals. Sometimes it's hard to say whether something is drawn from sci-fi or fantasy principles (McCaffrey's teleporting dragons (fantastic), and yet the backstory is that they were genetically engineered from creatures that had that natural ability, so is that sci-fi or fantasy? ...maybe both). Either way, it makes for a richer environment for the story, which generally involves themes that apply to our non-fantastic modern world.

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